94 GS firing order
94 GS firing order
This doesn't seem to be like any order ive come across on the site/manuals. The damn thing
has spark fuel and air and just wont start.
Here is a pic when it was still running:
you can see the order is odd on the disty
any suggestions welcome, im getting rather annoyed at this thing
has spark fuel and air and just wont start.
Here is a pic when it was still running:
you can see the order is odd on the disty
any suggestions welcome, im getting rather annoyed at this thing
1994 MX-3 RS
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Re: 94 GS firing order
Your cap should read left to right 4,5,3 on the top and 6,1,2 on the bottom but generally speaking you just wire it up with the correct number on the disty going to the correct cylinder. Did you check that your timing belt didn't skip a few teeth? Crank it over with someone holding a timing light on the crank. Make sure TEN and Gnd is jumped in the diags box of course.
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Re: 94 GS firing order
Ive hooked it up according to the cap but I think the problem may be that
I flooded it, took out two of the plugs and they were soaked in gas...
whoops.
I flooded it, took out two of the plugs and they were soaked in gas...
whoops.
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Re: 94 GS firing order
That cap looks bogus?? Do you have the original? Bottom left should be 6 then 1,2.
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92 GS Sold
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Re: 94 GS firing order
See why im a little wtf ish ?
Thats a beck arnley cap and the new replacement is the same as that one
Thats a beck arnley cap and the new replacement is the same as that one
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Re: 94 GS firing order
The firing order is 1-2-3-4-5-6.
Look at the cap and see how the traces work inside, on most caps they cross eachother to make the order on the cap that Dan said. Some caps are different than others. Believe the cap.
That looks like a 94 cap though, do you have a 94 disty?
Look at the cap and see how the traces work inside, on most caps they cross eachother to make the order on the cap that Dan said. Some caps are different than others. Believe the cap.
That looks like a 94 cap though, do you have a 94 disty?
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Re: 94 GS firing order
Yeah I have the 94+ disty with the three wire plug straight up and down not the
same as the larger plug.
same as the larger plug.
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Re: 94 GS firing order
if you lived closer i have a 94, 95 , 96 disty for sale other then that, that cap looks like a 94 cap though ignoition coil perhaps-- expensive part on its own though
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Re: 94 GS firing order
Yeah here is the disty:
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Re: 94 GS firing order
Also mike is that whole unit old with new cap?? K834 on the ignition coil possibly if it is a new unit its possible its the wrong one?? I had napa mess my old one up i have a klze so my unit is kf34 hmm still trying to help ya out mike. ...
Do u hear compression in the exhaust note??
Do u hear compression in the exhaust note??
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Re: 94 GS firing order
Also possibly take the whole unit out and inspect the inner workings very easy job did mine in 15 minutes knowing what tools i needed
3/8s ratchet 6 inch extention
12 mm or 14 mm bolts
before removal make sure to mark it so u know how to reinstall without messing timing up
only 2 bolts holding unit in place remove all wires and leads and remove unit
inspect the rotor and remove pieces inside one by one set aside in order.. Install is opposite
side note when removing cap use a 8mm socket 9/10 times ive rounded the screwdriver head.
Also when ur in there look for rust or brown metal indecation moisture has made its way to the coil then only thing stoping the car from starting
3/8s ratchet 6 inch extention
12 mm or 14 mm bolts
before removal make sure to mark it so u know how to reinstall without messing timing up
only 2 bolts holding unit in place remove all wires and leads and remove unit
inspect the rotor and remove pieces inside one by one set aside in order.. Install is opposite
side note when removing cap use a 8mm socket 9/10 times ive rounded the screwdriver head.
Also when ur in there look for rust or brown metal indecation moisture has made its way to the coil then only thing stoping the car from starting
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Re: 94 GS firing order
The whole unit is old with a new cap and rotor. I disassembled it and it was indeed
really rusty inside, did the best I could to clean it up and have 1.2 ohms on the 3
pin A to B (0.49-0.73 in service manual specs) and 19.3k ohms on the primary
(20-31k ohms spec) so those seem to be okay. As per the firing order again im
still not having any luck with it. I thought the cylinder fire order on V6's were
1-2-3-5-4-6 which is why they run smoother than a 4 banger. The 1-2-3-4-5-6
firing order doesn't match with the 1-2-3-5-4-6 in the 95 service manual haha....
this is just one big wtf to me.
Should I do the HEI mod then? Does this sound like that may be a good step to
take from here?
really rusty inside, did the best I could to clean it up and have 1.2 ohms on the 3
pin A to B (0.49-0.73 in service manual specs) and 19.3k ohms on the primary
(20-31k ohms spec) so those seem to be okay. As per the firing order again im
still not having any luck with it. I thought the cylinder fire order on V6's were
1-2-3-5-4-6 which is why they run smoother than a 4 banger. The 1-2-3-4-5-6
firing order doesn't match with the 1-2-3-5-4-6 in the 95 service manual haha....
this is just one big wtf to me.
Should I do the HEI mod then? Does this sound like that may be a good step to
take from here?
1994 MX-3 RS
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Re: 94 GS firing order
So the cap firing order was absolutely correct as per what Ryan said.
I put in a reman distributor and it fired right up and runs great. Just
need to time the thing and set the idle as its a bit high.
I put in a reman distributor and it fired right up and runs great. Just
need to time the thing and set the idle as its a bit high.
1994 MX-3 RS
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Re: 94 GS firing order
i concur for hei mod .. do we all concur ...
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Re: 94 GS firing order
Conan the Concur,,er agrees as well.
2004 Subaru WRX Silver, stage 2, minty interior.
2002 Subaru WRX Blue, SOLD (best E test numbers I've ever seen)
94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
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94 MX-6. Sold
92 GS KLZE 5 Speed
96 GS 5 speed, KLZE, Sold
95 GS Minty Shape Sold
92 GS Sold
92 GS Parts Car scrapped.
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