klze and turbos
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klze and turbos
just a question... how well does a klze hold up to small turbos like: Mitsubishi TD04-16t
Mitsubishi TD04-15g
Mitsubishi 13g turbo
ps i am looking at an mx3 with a ze and this guy my dad knows has a couple of turbos he said i could have when he finds them there stock off of volvos and not sure what one they are thats why i posted the different ones above they are the ones i could find
thanks
Mitsubishi TD04-15g
Mitsubishi 13g turbo
ps i am looking at an mx3 with a ze and this guy my dad knows has a couple of turbos he said i could have when he finds them there stock off of volvos and not sure what one they are thats why i posted the different ones above they are the ones i could find
thanks
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Re: klze and turbos
A motor doesn't care what brand the turbo is... Look around and see what sort of pipes you can get that bolt up to those flanges. Unless you plan on fabricating your own hot pipes (or at least the flange)
ZE can handle a bit of boost. John is running 11 PSI with injectors and engine management.
I don't know how much you can run without fuel modifications, but I'll pull 8 PSI out of my a-- for you.
ZE can handle a bit of boost. John is running 11 PSI with injectors and engine management.
I don't know how much you can run without fuel modifications, but I'll pull 8 PSI out of my a-- for you.
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Re: klze and turbos
John has a DE.Ryan wrote:ZE can handle a bit of boost. John is running 11 PSI with injectors and engine management.
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Re: klze and turbos
Yeah... don't listen to me, I'm full of it apparently.
Check out ProbeTalk.com. They have a handful or two of boosted cars.
Check out ProbeTalk.com. They have a handful or two of boosted cars.
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Re: klze and turbos
sweet thanks i was just sayin the typs cuz i thaught it would tell you what size they were and i can get someone to fab a couple of flanges for me and what would i need for engine management? oh and the car im lookin at has a bunch of mods like cold air intake, chip ECU, headers, duel exhaust stage 3 racing clutch
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Re: klze and turbos
You should really read Maximum Boost by Corky Bell. It will tell you all about turbo sizing, and what is needed to run a turbo. If you are still itching for boost, search here and on Probetalk. You will probably want to look into Megasquirt as a possible fuel and ignition controller.
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Re: klze and turbos
on a ze you can run 4-5 psi with stock injectors and an fmu and 8 psi with millenia S injectors and a megasquirt... but the question is how long will it last...
i think you have alot of reading to do... like i had alot to do!
look at all the turbo kl setup you can, to help you figure out what you need...
you cannot just put a turbo in your car besause someobe gives you a turbo, thats not how it works...
if you wanna go turbo youll need about 2500-3000$ in parts! plus lots of other stuff!
good luck, if you have questions you can pm me... ( look at my worklog)
john
i think you have alot of reading to do... like i had alot to do!
look at all the turbo kl setup you can, to help you figure out what you need...
you cannot just put a turbo in your car besause someobe gives you a turbo, thats not how it works...
if you wanna go turbo youll need about 2500-3000$ in parts! plus lots of other stuff!
good luck, if you have questions you can pm me... ( look at my worklog)
john
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Re: klze and turbos
"you cannot just put a turbo in your car besause someobe gives you a turbo, thats not how it works..."
what do u mean? i no i need to have an intercooler pipeing and bov and stuff like that
and i just looked at ur work log that is a sweet azz ride
what do u mean? i no i need to have an intercooler pipeing and bov and stuff like that
and i just looked at ur work log that is a sweet azz ride
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Re: klze and turbos
an intercooler and s bov is the last thing you should be thinking of...
think about,
fuel injectors
fuel pump
wideband o2
collector pipes
engine management
better clutch
stiffer engine mounts
exhaust
spark
tuning
ect..
think about,
fuel injectors
fuel pump
wideband o2
collector pipes
engine management
better clutch
stiffer engine mounts
exhaust
spark
tuning
ect..
mx-3, KL turbo (tooo much to list) yeah its boosted!
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Re: klze and turbos
Don't forget spare trannies and axles... Especially if you're going big.
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'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
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'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
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Re: klze and turbos
ive been lucky... i have 3 spares trannys and i didn't blow one yet...
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Re: klze and turbos
ok could you help me out with some brand names or specs of the parts i need stuff like that? also they are very small turbos about the same size as a stock vw jetta turbo so im not sure about how much boost they would put out.
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Re: klze and turbos
Lucky, I've got an NA K8 and I've already been through one... albeit, it was user error that brought about the end of my 1st(Not me driving, thankfully...)johnmx3ze wrote:ive been lucky... i have 3 spares trannys and i didn't blow one yet...
I'm still waiting on Michael Perry's Pontiac G6 tranny conversion to pan out, I hope it does. I won't even consider boosting a K series without something stronger downstream.
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'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
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Re: klze and turbos
You've been given some awesome advice, I highly recommend you read Maximum Boost as suggested earlier... It will answer almost all of your questions, and people will be more receptive to questions after you've made an effort to find out on your own. :/mazdaman222 wrote:ok could you help me out with some brand names or specs of the parts i need stuff like that? also they are very small turbos about the same size as a stock vw jetta turbo so im not sure about how much boost they would put out.
We want to help as much as we can, but we are avoiding steering you the wrong direction... Some things need to be learned on your own, or you won't fully understand them until after you've broken something expensive.
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP
Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP
First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
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Re: klze and turbos
thats why im asking so i dont break anything expencive