1.6 to 2.5 possible?
1.6 to 2.5 possible?
I've been debating for a while whether to put a BP series in which ive seen basically every 1.6 liter mx3 do, or if it is possible to put a KLZE 2.5 in there. Are the motor mounts the same? And if i do get the KLZE its comes with a 5 speed transmission, ECU KL31, engine of course, distributor, altenator, starter, A/C compressor, power steering pump, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, Throttle body, clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, and half shaft. Is it possible? Also what are people views on turboing a KLZE ive heard its bad because of the high compression ratio but it shouldnt be a problem if you dont put too much boost should it?
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Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
ya, umm ok
what year of car do you have? Whats with the B6 hate?
anything can be done if you have the time and $.
what year of car do you have? Whats with the B6 hate?
anything can be done if you have the time and $.
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Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
Yep. Exactly what RS said.
Yeah you can do it. If you have the knowledge, time and money.
If you ask me, it's not worth it. The B6 is a great engine. You can turbo it for a fraction of the money it'd take you to swap.
Or you could swap for a (much easier, since it's a direct bolt on) BP, and turbo it. Either option would be much cheaper and easier to do than a B6-KL swap.
Yeah you can do it. If you have the knowledge, time and money.
If you ask me, it's not worth it. The B6 is a great engine. You can turbo it for a fraction of the money it'd take you to swap.
Or you could swap for a (much easier, since it's a direct bolt on) BP, and turbo it. Either option would be much cheaper and easier to do than a B6-KL swap.
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Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
1.6 to 2.5 is not the way to go. Easier to sell your car and buy a GS. Go with the B6 and turbo, less work, less money(well maybe not), less pain in the a** factor.
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Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
ya, umm ok
what year of car do you have? Whats with the B6 hate?
anything can be done if you have the time and $.
Yep. Exactly what RS said.
Yeah you can do it. If you have the knowledge, time and money.
If you ask me, it's not worth it. The B6 is a great engine. You can turbo it for a fraction of the money it'd take you to swap.
Or you could swap for a (much easier, since it's a direct bolt on) BP, and turbo it. Either option would be much cheaper and easier to do than a B6-KL swap.
Ok i do not "hate" the B6 but I have driven cars with alot more power than an 88 horsepower engine plus the fact that mine has 185,000 + miles on it so i think its a good idea to start lookin into a new more powerful engine. I have done tons of research on the BP series and know what they are capable of. I was just curious if a KL was possible itd be nice to have that V6 sound:).
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Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
Haven't research the BP enough.
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Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
Haven't researched enough period or he'd have come across the b6->kl and k8->b worklogs.
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Green GS - Sold.
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Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
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Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
Ryan wrote:Haven't researched enough period or he'd have come across the b6->kl and k8->b worklogs.
Ok first of all you all dont know how much I hve researched the BP so dont go around assuming that I dont know what im talking about. As for the comment about the logs of the swaps I did not say I stuck strictly to this site for my research. I am pretty much heartset on the BP but was just purely wondering wether or not i could do the KLZE. Thats it.Limegreen mx-3 wrote:Haven't research the BP enough.
Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
Anything is possible but putting a KL into an RS model MX-3
is like serving pork to insurgents. You can do it but it will likely
be a painful experience.
is like serving pork to insurgents. You can do it but it will likely
be a painful experience.
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Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
Thanks now i know that i can but itd be a pain in the a-- ill go with the bp and turbo it
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Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
LOL!Mi|<E wrote:Anything is possible but putting a KL into an RS model MX-3
is like serving pork to insurgents. You can do it but it will likely
be a painful experience.
Re: 1.6 to 2.5 possible?
for what its worth, it doesnt really take much to swap a 4 to a 6. the only problem is the fuel lines and heater core lines need to be extended. i've been looking throughb my old pictures of when i was rebuilding my b6 and comparing them to the gs i pulled my ze from and really it can be done fairly easy. but i do admit i orrignally wanted the bp but since i never managed to get one or find one that wasnt beat to hell i jsut went this way after casue it was there