Turbo ZE Questions

Matt · Post by **Matt** » April 17th, 2007, 1:32 pm

Hey all I am looking around and reading up on turbo's. I plan on getting a ZE and upgrading all internals as well as turbo this thing. I am looking for intense WHP. I plan on spending roughly $10 000 CA for everything hopefully. I am looking for some insight from those that know what they are doing.

<b> Internals </b>
What do I gotta upgrade?

<b> Turbo </B>
Best Idea for this?

I am really in the dark right now for knowledge so anyones assitance is greatly appreciated.

cjthor · Post by **cjthor** » April 17th, 2007, 2:06 pm

search search search. turbo ze has been gone over a few times. I did a quick search on turbo ZE and came up with a bunch of threads.

2RotorsNaDream · Post by **2RotorsNaDream** » April 17th, 2007, 8:16 pm

If you're gonna swap all internals you can save yourself alot of money by getting a KLDE (US Probe GT/MX-6 V6 engine) instead of the KLZE.

Red Rocket · Post by **Red Rocket** » April 17th, 2007, 9:30 pm

Buy an rx7, 8000 at tiger japan

XxantwawnxX · Post by **XxantwawnxX** » April 18th, 2007, 9:28 am

Red Rocket wrote:Buy an rx7, 8000 at tiger japan

im sure if he wanted to do another car he would not of made this thread.

If ur gonna rebuild it you could get a cheaper KLDE and and just get the flat top pistons. Although you wont have the better flowing heads.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » April 18th, 2007, 12:46 pm

Well I already got a KLDE but you mean just get the ZE Heads/Pistons??

Ya im sticking to the mx lol.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » April 18th, 2007, 12:48 pm

Red Rocket wrote:Buy an rx7, 8000 at tiger japan

And I have a bad expierence at Tiger Jap and i got the card right here 'John' sold me a "KLZE" which was actually a KLDE so I paid $300 more then I should have and only noticed after it was installed

n2ogsze · Post by **n2ogsze** » April 18th, 2007, 4:18 pm

If you plan on spending so much money on the build, including internal upgrading, do this:

*use your DE block--bore it at least .020 over to get some nice fresh cylinder walls
*use your DE crank--at least have it polished and possibly cut down if the journals are in bad shape
*buy KLZE heads--swap over DE springs, locks, retainers (or spend a grip on aftermarket goodies)
*buy KLZE cams--or use your DE exhaust cams and use ZE inake cams (or buy turbo cams from an aftermarket dealer)
*buy a KLZE IM--or use your DE, depends if you are running out of cash at this point
*buy a new oil pump--best choice is a genuine OEM Mazda
*buy Toga HP bearings--period
*buy either Millenia S connecting rods or the best of the best, the almighty Pauter rods
*look for either Wiseco or Diamond pistons (order to the compression ratio of your preference)
*unless you are a bad-a--, have a professional assemble the bottom end
*have bottom end blue-printed and balanced
*connect the top end to the bottom end via new headbolts and Mazda headgaskets

ruthless_mx3 · Post by **ruthless_mx3** » April 19th, 2007, 8:31 pm

n2ogsze wrote:If you plan on spending so much money on the build, including internal upgrading, do this:

*use your DE block--bore it at least .020 over to get some nice fresh cylinder walls
*use your DE crank--at least have it polished and possibly cut down if the journals are in bad shape
*buy KLZE heads--swap over DE springs, locks, retainers (or spend a grip on aftermarket goodies)
*buy KLZE cams--or use your DE exhaust cams and use ZE inake cams (or buy turbo cams from an aftermarket dealer)
*buy a KLZE IM--or use your DE, depends if you are running out of cash at this point
*buy a new oil pump--best choice is a genuine OEM Mazda
*buy Toga HP bearings--period
*buy either Millenia S connecting rods or the best of the best, the almighty Pauter rods
*look for either Wiseco or Diamond pistons (order to the compression ratio of your preference)
*unless you are a bad-a--, have a professional assemble the bottom end
*have bottom end blue-printed and balanced
*connect the top end to the bottom end via new headbolts and Mazda headgaskets

oh stop it! you're getting me excited

that sounds like fun

nice heads up w/ the toga bearings, I assume some have had issues w/ other brands?

n2ogsze · Post by **n2ogsze** » April 19th, 2007, 8:50 pm

Not that I know of, but they are the style with an oil groove going down the middle and, well, I can't prove it but I can only imagine our number 6 rod journal would thank us for that extra oiling assistance.