Australian Eunos 30x K8 to KL-ZE engine swap
- slimsmedley
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hey, great to hear from all the aussies on this site!!!
my next question is i have a 2 1/4 inch exhaust on my eunos now and its definately VERY loud. When i do the swap (all going according to plan) next week, is the note going to change much? louder or softer??
also, anyone want to buy a K8 engine, loom, ecu and gearbox with 160,000kms??
my next question is i have a 2 1/4 inch exhaust on my eunos now and its definately VERY loud. When i do the swap (all going according to plan) next week, is the note going to change much? louder or softer??
also, anyone want to buy a K8 engine, loom, ecu and gearbox with 160,000kms??
- slimsmedley
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hey dusty,
i hope it does get a little quieter after the swap. i have a big stereo in it and its hard to hear it sometimes!
By saying 'gutted the cat' do you mean the exhaust just runs straight through, similar to a hi flow cat? how did it affect the performance?
here's one for everyone. i ran my eunos on the dyno a few weeks ago after i put the 2 1/4 cat-back exhaust on. I was told by the technician that his friend ran one and it pulled 78 k/watts stock. Mine only ran 71k/watts. We played around with the air box (loss of performance) and vris (1/2 k/watts increase) but couldn't get anywhere near that 78 k/watt. Is it because of my exhaust?
Anyone have the figures for a stock dyno run to compare to mine? and for a engine swap KLZE dyno run?
Will the exhaust restrict the ZE once its in?
i hope it does get a little quieter after the swap. i have a big stereo in it and its hard to hear it sometimes!
By saying 'gutted the cat' do you mean the exhaust just runs straight through, similar to a hi flow cat? how did it affect the performance?
here's one for everyone. i ran my eunos on the dyno a few weeks ago after i put the 2 1/4 cat-back exhaust on. I was told by the technician that his friend ran one and it pulled 78 k/watts stock. Mine only ran 71k/watts. We played around with the air box (loss of performance) and vris (1/2 k/watts increase) but couldn't get anywhere near that 78 k/watt. Is it because of my exhaust?
Anyone have the figures for a stock dyno run to compare to mine? and for a engine swap KLZE dyno run?
Will the exhaust restrict the ZE once its in?
- Aston Wards
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nah! 2.25 will be fine with your KL, s'what everyone else seems to run...
use some more sound-deadening in your boot to dull the noise if it's too loud
as for the performance difference, you have to expect some differences between two engines.... mileage etc...
you could only reliably compare the SAME engine before & after the exhaust
use some more sound-deadening in your boot to dull the noise if it's too loud
as for the performance difference, you have to expect some differences between two engines.... mileage etc...
you could only reliably compare the SAME engine before & after the exhaust
91 Eunos Presso KF-ZE
89 Nissan 300ZX TT 2+2
90 Nissan 300ZX TT 2+0
89 Nissan 300ZX TT 2+2
90 Nissan 300ZX TT 2+0
hey slimsmedley
well i was curious today on the output on the klze, so i went to visit rank rotary here in melbourne.. they have dynamic test systems dyno
all it cost was $80 to do a power run.. and they did it straight away
here are the results
Max power 104.9 kw @ 138 km/h
Max torque 484.6 Nm @ 101 km/h
these guys were impressed for an na engine
except for the air/fuel at top end was running way to rich, stock computer
cannot cope, but after market management will fix that and should give further 5-10 kw
any one else have figures for their klze..?
well i was curious today on the output on the klze, so i went to visit rank rotary here in melbourne.. they have dynamic test systems dyno
all it cost was $80 to do a power run.. and they did it straight away
here are the results
Max power 104.9 kw @ 138 km/h
Max torque 484.6 Nm @ 101 km/h
these guys were impressed for an na engine
except for the air/fuel at top end was running way to rich, stock computer
cannot cope, but after market management will fix that and should give further 5-10 kw
any one else have figures for their klze..?
- slimsmedley
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thanks dusty, did they say anything about advancing ignition timing?
i still wanna find out what the stock run is on the K8, and the run of a KLZE with jap ecu?
some places run cars in 3rd gear on the dyno, but i was told the proper way to do it is run the car in 4th as its the closest to a 1:1 ratio? can someone tell me what is right? i got the reading from my eunos running in 3rd gear...
i still wanna find out what the stock run is on the K8, and the run of a KLZE with jap ecu?
some places run cars in 3rd gear on the dyno, but i was told the proper way to do it is run the car in 4th as its the closest to a 1:1 ratio? can someone tell me what is right? i got the reading from my eunos running in 3rd gear...
- slimsmedley
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okay, so as a final sort of checklist, the things i should worry about are
- flywheel
- clutch
- water pump
- hoses and coolants
- engine mounts
fuel pump?
- flywheel
- clutch
- water pump
- hoses and coolants
- engine mounts
fuel pump?
1994 Eunos 30x Sports
blaze red, Jap KL-DE 2.5 V6 conversion, KL28 ecu, Auto to Manual gearbox conversion, lightened flywheel, Top Gun leads, aftermarket radiator, Elf engine oil and filters, 2 1/4" cat-back mandrel bent exhaust with carbon fibre/stainless steel muffler and 4" tip, Pioneer sound system, 17" SSW rims, 101.3 wheel k/watts @ 6500rpm
blaze red, Jap KL-DE 2.5 V6 conversion, KL28 ecu, Auto to Manual gearbox conversion, lightened flywheel, Top Gun leads, aftermarket radiator, Elf engine oil and filters, 2 1/4" cat-back mandrel bent exhaust with carbon fibre/stainless steel muffler and 4" tip, Pioneer sound system, 17" SSW rims, 101.3 wheel k/watts @ 6500rpm
- slimsmedley
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ZE is due in today!!!
1994 Eunos 30x Sports
blaze red, Jap KL-DE 2.5 V6 conversion, KL28 ecu, Auto to Manual gearbox conversion, lightened flywheel, Top Gun leads, aftermarket radiator, Elf engine oil and filters, 2 1/4" cat-back mandrel bent exhaust with carbon fibre/stainless steel muffler and 4" tip, Pioneer sound system, 17" SSW rims, 101.3 wheel k/watts @ 6500rpm
blaze red, Jap KL-DE 2.5 V6 conversion, KL28 ecu, Auto to Manual gearbox conversion, lightened flywheel, Top Gun leads, aftermarket radiator, Elf engine oil and filters, 2 1/4" cat-back mandrel bent exhaust with carbon fibre/stainless steel muffler and 4" tip, Pioneer sound system, 17" SSW rims, 101.3 wheel k/watts @ 6500rpm
- slimsmedley
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ok, the ZE is completely in now, i had the short straight intake so i had to get an 'S' pipe and use the air box from the K8 and everything runs fine. The transmission from the mx6 was too long to fit unless i moved all the brake stuff around so i kept the K8 trans
BUT.....
the damn thing turns over but never kicks in unless i spray carby cleaner down the intake! It runs fine after that, but if i stall or anything stops the car i have to get out and spray the bastard
WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY CAR??
after i wired it up there is one plug in the ECU left empty, have i missed something?
BUT.....
the damn thing turns over but never kicks in unless i spray carby cleaner down the intake! It runs fine after that, but if i stall or anything stops the car i have to get out and spray the bastard
WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY CAR??
after i wired it up there is one plug in the ECU left empty, have i missed something?
1994 Eunos 30x Sports
blaze red, Jap KL-DE 2.5 V6 conversion, KL28 ecu, Auto to Manual gearbox conversion, lightened flywheel, Top Gun leads, aftermarket radiator, Elf engine oil and filters, 2 1/4" cat-back mandrel bent exhaust with carbon fibre/stainless steel muffler and 4" tip, Pioneer sound system, 17" SSW rims, 101.3 wheel k/watts @ 6500rpm
blaze red, Jap KL-DE 2.5 V6 conversion, KL28 ecu, Auto to Manual gearbox conversion, lightened flywheel, Top Gun leads, aftermarket radiator, Elf engine oil and filters, 2 1/4" cat-back mandrel bent exhaust with carbon fibre/stainless steel muffler and 4" tip, Pioneer sound system, 17" SSW rims, 101.3 wheel k/watts @ 6500rpm