Kl-de build up! how much hp is possible?

[jaydog5678]

The Kf was never in an American car. It was only a Japanese replacement engine.

It's not the best idea to shave the heads to raise the compression. Taking away to much from the head's will retard cam timing slightly. If thery're warped or just a little out of level go ahead and clean it up with a light cut. Your best option is to run a higher compression piston (ZE piston or even higher).

[BucktownMx3]

ok. thanks for all the help. as of right now im going to get the ze pistons from corksport, maybe ze cams from this guy, maybe the underdrive pulleys from corksport,and the thermo spacers from outlaw engineering, and maybe the bigger throttle body. ne thing else i should get?

I have already read the thread on probetalk. im askin u guys.

<small>[ November 01, 2003, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: BucktownMx3 ]</small>

[Tyler17rose]

Some headers.

[papa roached]

well, with ZE pistons and ZE cams, you have a KL-ZE :p

[Tyler17rose]

Ze heads have larger exhaust valves aswell. Flow alot better then DE heads too.

[Zoso124]

Oh really? Proof?

[Tyler17rose]

I dont have any proof. But i remember reading it somewhere... The only reason i beleived it was that some ZE's have tendancies to break retainers more then DE's so i throught it was because of the larger valves. If i'm wrong prove it.

[TsiMiata]

Originally posted by papa roached:
well, with ZE pistons and ZE cams, you have a KL-ZE :p

Still need a ZE intake manifold.

BTW- I have a set of KLZE cams I'm selling. $150+shipping

[pelado]

Originally posted by T-Rose:
I dont have any proof. But i remember reading it somewhere... The only reason i beleived it was that some ZE's have tendancies to break retainers more then DE's so i throught it was because of the larger valves. If i'm wrong prove it.

Valves are same size, discussed here and on probetalk many times, don't have to prove a thing to you.

[BucktownMx3]

ok will the kl-de ecu do ne thing performance wise for the K8? i mean if i have to ill get the ze ecu for my kl-de built up motor im just wondering if the 2.5 ecu will do ne thing for the 1.8?

[Spydie]

Originally posted by T-Rose:
I dont have any proof. But i remember reading it somewhere... The only reason i beleived it was that some ZE's have tendancies to break retainers more then DE's so i throught it was because of the larger valves. If i'm wrong prove it.

it's because ZE's have fiercer cams not because of larger valves. If you were to say put K8 cams in a ZE block the valve retainers would last forever...but performance would suck.

[Spydie]

Originally posted by BucktownMx3:
ok will the kl-de ecu do ne thing performance wise for the K8? i mean if i have to ill get the ze ecu for my kl-de built up motor im just wondering if the 2.5 ecu will do ne thing for the 1.8?

yes it will suck. I did it once out of curiosity...idle was incredible. Dead smooth. but accelleration was pathetic. Totally gutless.
the fuel map on the K8 is better than the KL. (that's why a K8 ecu will work great on a ZE if a ZE ecu is not available)

[Mradio]

about the ecu's, i would suggest you check bulk buy section on probetalk. This guy can program a chip for you, put whatever you want for VRIS points, and air/fuel I think. This will be very helpful for your build up engine. The only problem is that you will need someone to solder that instead of your existing.

[BucktownMx3]

whats is the quickest e.t. form a kl-de? and what are the mods done to it?

[BucktownMx3]

oh yeah and whats the best clutch to use?