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Poly Bushingkits for the Mx3

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I am in contact with SuperPro about getting some bushings for my Mx3.
And it turns out they got pretty much all the bushings we would ever need for our car.
Heres the partslist:

http://www.nope.no/bushings.htm

It is important to check the diameter of the front control arm bushes as
we catalogue these as a cross reference to the BG series 323.

Also, I have had a quick look at the forum link you sent me - thank you
for mentioning us. I see one of the posts notes that the sway bar link
was a solid joint on the MX3. If this is the case on your car, then you
will not need the 2 x SPF0903K's.

For the contributors in the USA, there is a SuperPro distributor based
in Michigan who I am sure will be pleased to help them.

His contact details are:

Global Performance Parts
4554 - 128th Street
Michigan 49423
Ph: 616 399 9025
Fax: 616 399 9174
Web: http://www.globalperformanceparts.com
E.Mail: glennd@globalperformanceparts.com

Hope this helps :)

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they are only a few hours from me.. i'll have to check them out
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nope-mx3 wrote:It is important to check the diameter of the front control arm bushes as
we catalogue these as a cross reference to the BG series 323.
So on that link, I see front control arm bushings listed with 38mm and 35mm outer diameters. Is this an either/or depending on measurement, or do we need one of each kit?

The 38mm OD kit looks like it has 4 bushings, while the 35mm OD kit has 2 bushings. Is this correct, and do we need all 6 bushings?

Anyone know off hand what the diameters of the front and rear swaybars are? edit: Got 'em. Front 22mm, rear 20mm

If I can nail down a parts list, I'm ordering this week. Can't hang around for a group buy. However, I'll be able to confirm whether or not this is what we need. Hopefully we'll get it on the first shot.

Also, for anyone looking to do a complete r/r on the front end, I just ordered some Moog ball joints and tie rod ends from Auto Parts Giant. The part numbers and prices are:

Moog Lower Ball Joint - K9967 $37.51 (2 required)
Moog Inner Tie Rod End - EV373 $42.32 (2 required)
Moog Outer Tie Rod End - ES3251RL $30.81 (2 required)
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That is a sweet find, but super expensive after the exchange rate. Damn Pound is too strong...
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I`ve updated the link with the missing stuff.
The Front Control Arm bushings has some optional size bushings.

Also, the US distributor I`ve linked to, has the entire kit (minus the swaybar stuff, as that might not fit), for about $314 plus shipping, so that`s where I`m getting the parts.

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nope-mx3 wrote:I`ve updated the link with the missing stuff.
The Front Control Arm bushings has some optional size bushings.
What's the option? I see the 35mm OD bush has the added notation "STD Alignment." So an extra 3mm on the outer diameter is for alignment reasons? I find this a little hard to swallow.

I'll order the whole thing for $314 if I have to, but if I don't have to, I'd rather not order the pieces that I don't need.

I'll give Global Performance a call later today and see what they're finding. If they don't know anything about it, I'll probably just order the whole schmear, and maybe I can return the bushes I don't need for a refund or something.
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Okay, I've been pouring over technical drawings and stuff from the FSM, and I think I've accounted for all the pieces in the kit linked here. What I can't figure out are the "optional bushes," and some of their contents. It looks like the following key applies for the kit contents field:

B = Bushing - or anything made of poly, hence the 4B in the front LCA front bush - this is the bushing itself plus the "stopper" as it's described in the FSM. Also explains the 4B in the trailing arm front and rear - they cut the bushing in half so that each half is inserted from its own side, meeting in the middle.

T = Tube - the metal tube that gets driven through the bushing and makes contact with the locating/retaining bolt.

W = Washer - where used as a retainer or spacer, or to protect against abrasion from other hard parts.

S = ? WTF is S? I'm guessing it means "Shell" for the bracket that retains the rear bushing on the LCA, and bolts to the front crossmember. Best seen on page R018 of the online FSM in the lower left exploded diagram.


If all this is the case, and all my inferrence is correct, it would make the most sense for us to order all the stuff on the top part of the table except the Control Arm Lower - Inner Rear Bush part SPF0953-70K, and order the part from the lower table, part SPF2415K instead. It looks like one of each does indeed get the whole job done, assuming all of the parts are correct and fit well.

If anyone wants to take the suicide plunge with me, I'll be ordering the following first thing tomorrow morning:

FRONT:
(1) SPF0952-80K - LCA Front Bush
(1) SPF0953-70K - LCA Rear Bush
(1) SPF0903K - Stabilizer Endlink Bush Kit
(1) SPF0908-22K - Stabilizer Chassis Mount Bush (if available in 22mm size) update - 22.8mm is the closest size. I'm going to try it and see if there's too much play. Other option is to get the 21.5mm and drill it out to 22mm.

REAR
(1) SPF1786K - Front Lateral Link Inner and Outer Bush
(1) SPF1787K - Rear Lateral Link Inner and Outer Bush
(1) SPF0907K - Trailing Arm Front Bush
(1) SPF0906K - Trailing Arm Rear Bush
(1) SPF1406-20K - Stabilizer Chassis Mount Bush

*will update tomorrow with prices in USD.
Total came to US$387.51. I don't have itemized prices yet, hope to soon.


I'm going to hold off on the 2nd SPF0903 Stabilizer Endlink Bush Kit for the rear. I think the whole car is only going to take 8 bushings, but we'll see. Ordering another one later is easier than sending one back.

Once I get the parts, I'll try to get everything installed quickly. If everything works, maybe we can get SuperPro to package all the above parts as a master kit and sell them to us at a bit of a cut rate, or can maybe at least get a group buy together from Global Performance on all the individual pieces. I'll inquire about that when I order tomorrow, unless someone already has. Speak soon or forever let me be embarrassed.
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Look at the table again.
The optional bushings listed on the bottom is if we require different size bushings for the front control arm.
That`s why it`s important to measure the size before ordering.

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nope-mx3 wrote:Look at the table again.
The optional bushings listed on the bottom is if we require different size bushings for the front control arm.
That`s why it`s important to measure the size before ordering.
Nope, I'm sorry, that's not amazingly clear on the table. Is there any further insight regarding which OD bushing we need? I'm not able to tear apart my car and measure.
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jbaysinger wrote: Nope, I'm sorry, that's not amazingly clear on the table. Is there any further insight regarding which OD bushing we need? I'm not able to tear apart my car and measure.
That`s the problem. I`m not sure.
Maybe Yoda knows, he`s something of a Mx3 suspension guru :)

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nope-mx3 wrote:That`s the problem. I`m not sure.
Maybe Yoda knows, he`s something of a Mx3 suspension guru :)
Yeah, unfortunately, I'm out of time. I'm gonna' go ahead and call Global Performance and see if they can eyeball these things. From the pictures of the bushings on the SRD and CorkSport sites, it looks like the 35mm is the way to go. If we can't make a satisfactory determination, I'll just get both and hope they have a decent return policy.
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Let me know how it works out. Oh, and check my first post again.
I think you listed an item you dont need, and removed one you do need.

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nope-mx3 wrote:Let me know how it works out. Oh, and check my first post again.
I think you listed an item you dont need, and removed one you do need.
That would be the swaybar endlinks and the LCA rear bushing in the different diameter. I updated that post to reflect what I actually ordered.

They're out of stock on the bushings that I need most. Figures. They estimate 3 weeks 'til delivery. I hope this machine holds together that long.
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I broke down and ordered a set of SRD bushings to get me by until the SuperPro stuff comes in. This thing is just way too bad to wait 3 weeks for. I really thought I broke something on the way home last night. So much play, it feels like driveline lash!

Therefore, when the poly hits my mailbox, the SRD kit will be available to whoever needs it. I'll even keep all the packaging and as much of the dry lubricant as I can. Everyone feel free to PM me if you want to put in a reservation (read: bid.. :lol: ).
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Post by projectmx »

Does anyone know if the GTR rear subframe uses the same size bushings? cause i need to replace the bushings in it and no idea where to find them...

another question is $380 for those bushings just seems high is that honestly a good deal? and will it be worth it?

Lastly what are the end link bushings? I don't recall our endlinks ahving bushings
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