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I just got a new clutch and now when I shift from first to second, second to third etc... it sorta grinds. Ill push the clutch all the way in and when i shift i can feel it sorta grinding like its not a bad grinding but it makes my spine quiver because it feels so bad and hurts to hear my car do things like that. It wasnt like this before the new clutch was installed. I read a post below and it recommended bleeding the clutch but i dont know if this will work for me because it was just installed. I hate it i cant stand even shifting. It doesnt do it when i shift without the clutch with the rpms. I try not to use the clutch lately because I hate hearing it grind or I double clutch to stop the grinding but it is not very convenient because if I ever plan to race it will be useless to try and double clutch slowly or without the clutch at all. someone help me. :dunno:
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It sounds to me like some how you f-ed your syncros up. Not sure how...but that would be my guess.
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check/adjust your pedal height and/or free-play.
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pedal height is right and 30 mm of play on clutch
wtf is a syncro? lol thats probably the problem because now when I give it a shot of gas the shifter goes retarded and moves back like 2 inches its weird.
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where do I get these syncros you speak of? :driver:
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The Shifter moving like you said it did, is most likely caused by bad motor mounts, or Tranny mounts. Your syncronizers(sp), are in the transmission its self, if they're messed up, you're looking at having to get it rebuilt. -Joe
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if it means n-e thing when im in first and i give it gas the shifter moves back towards me like a good 2 inches. Im just wondering whats gona happen now when I put in my short shifter will it pop outta gear? How much am I looking at for new tranny mounts or motor mounts?
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wow... mine don't move like that... but im experiancing the same issue... i got a new clutch not to long ago, and now i either gotta pull really hard, and/or it sumwhat grinds when i put it in gear... doesn't sound/feel good... :shrug:
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what do i do?
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ummmm same thing im gonna do!... sit my *** down and wait for sumone to reply :)
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hahahah I really donno what to do! Should I take it back to the garage and tell them off and kick them in the nuts or what? it costed 600 to get my clutch put in and as soon as i got it back the shifter was just going retarded. I donno what to do im very short on cash now/ any help appreciated thanx everyone!
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is it an aftermarket clutch? if so, your factory clutch line may be flexing. you might need to upgrade to stainless.
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nope not aftermarket well technically yes but its not a better one its the same as stock i suppose
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A syncro is the "gear like mechanism" that matches the speed of the engine and wheel so you can shift without double clutching or grinding. Here is a page on how they work with the rest of the tranny...You will have to read tihs page and the next 2 to understand the entire process (the syncomesh page alone doesn cover the entire process).

The only thing I don't understand, how in hell would a new clutch make your sycnros stop working? In all likely hood it probibly these probibly arn't the problem, and for $$ sake, I surely hope they're not. But then again there is always that possibility.
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OK checked out the page and now i know what syncros are! THANX! i hope to got its not them either. Could it be where the garage had to take apart the tranny to put in the clutch they screwed up the syncros or tranny/motor mounts or something like that. please tell me its their fault :eek:
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