K8 vs KL oil pump
K8 vs KL oil pump
Buying another DE and want to put a brand new oil pump in it. I like the Toga HV oil pumps, but did not see on for the KL motors, but I see one for the k8.
My question is:
Are the 1.8 oil pumps and 2.5 oil pumps the same?
My question is:
Are the 1.8 oil pumps and 2.5 oil pumps the same?
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Re: K8 vs KL oil pump
Exactly the same.
The Toga pump is basically a ripoff. All they have done is opened the case (perhaps even used cores), machined the housing a few thou to reduce side clearance, and then marked it up a bunch. It gives you a small linear increase but might grenade the pump if they machined off square or too tight.
The Toga pump is basically a ripoff. All they have done is opened the case (perhaps even used cores), machined the housing a few thou to reduce side clearance, and then marked it up a bunch. It gives you a small linear increase but might grenade the pump if they machined off square or too tight.
Now with Moderator power!
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
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2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
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Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
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Re: K8 vs KL oil pump
Hmm. I figured they would use an aftermarket pump and modify it, but never investigated to see what was actually done with the pump. The Toga pump is only $125. OEM is $250.Ryan wrote:Exactly the same.
The Toga pump is basically a ripoff. All they have done is opened the case (perhaps even used cores), machined the housing a few thou to reduce side clearance, and then marked it up a bunch. It gives you a small linear increase but might grenade the pump if they machined off square or too tight.
But here is what I am trying to do.
I'm buying a 2.5 DE tomorrow morning. I would like to replace every seal and gasket on the motor(minus the Head gasket's), new timing belt/water pump and a new oil pump before I drop it in. I would LOVE to buy everything OEM....but I'm not made of money.....
1993 Mazda Mx-3 GS-Sold ![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
1992 GS "The Bucket" Gone.
1993 GS 2.5 KLDE. Current daily.
92 GS 5spd for sale! Sold it....after I got a hatch cover in great condition![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
92 GS Auction Car, most expensive non-running mx-3 I have ever bought... Parted out and Crushed.
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1992 GS "The Bucket" Gone.
1993 GS 2.5 KLDE. Current daily.
92 GS 5spd for sale! Sold it....after I got a hatch cover in great condition
![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
92 GS Auction Car, most expensive non-running mx-3 I have ever bought... Parted out and Crushed.
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Re: K8 vs KL oil pump
where did you find the toga for 125? they're 199. Buying aftermarket oil pumps from places like rockauto and such are also over 100 dollars.
Re: K8 vs KL oil pump
SuperK wrote:where did you find the toga for 125? they're 199. Buying aftermarket oil pumps from places like rockauto and such are also over 100 dollars.
Oops. Yes, they are $199. Im not sure what I was looking at.
1993 Mazda Mx-3 GS-Sold ![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
1992 GS "The Bucket" Gone.
1993 GS 2.5 KLDE. Current daily.
92 GS 5spd for sale! Sold it....after I got a hatch cover in great condition![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
92 GS Auction Car, most expensive non-running mx-3 I have ever bought... Parted out and Crushed.
MY WORKLOG, check it out
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![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
1992 GS "The Bucket" Gone.
1993 GS 2.5 KLDE. Current daily.
92 GS 5spd for sale! Sold it....after I got a hatch cover in great condition
![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
92 GS Auction Car, most expensive non-running mx-3 I have ever bought... Parted out and Crushed.
MY WORKLOG, check it out
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Re: K8 vs KL oil pump
I read somewhere on PT that Mellings makes an as-good-as-oem replacement. I'm running it. I race every other weekend (when I'm home) and I've had no problems whatsoever, with a rev happy setup.
Now with Moderator power!
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
Feedback
Re: K8 vs KL oil pump
I've used Melling's pumps on boat motors(350/454/502CI) and older vehicles. They have always worked great....thanks for the info.Ryan wrote:I read somewhere on PT that Mellings makes an as-good-as-oem replacement. I'm running it. I race every other weekend (when I'm home) and I've had no problems whatsoever, with a rev happy setup.
1993 Mazda Mx-3 GS-Sold ![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
1992 GS "The Bucket" Gone.
1993 GS 2.5 KLDE. Current daily.
92 GS 5spd for sale! Sold it....after I got a hatch cover in great condition![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
92 GS Auction Car, most expensive non-running mx-3 I have ever bought... Parted out and Crushed.
MY WORKLOG, check it out
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=79959
![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
1992 GS "The Bucket" Gone.
1993 GS 2.5 KLDE. Current daily.
92 GS 5spd for sale! Sold it....after I got a hatch cover in great condition
![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
92 GS Auction Car, most expensive non-running mx-3 I have ever bought... Parted out and Crushed.
MY WORKLOG, check it out
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Re: K8 vs KL oil pump
ipp also sells topline which i hear are like oem
Re: K8 vs KL oil pump
Have rarely ever heard of someones stock oil pump failing. Id not bother. I rebuilt my engine and just cleaned the oil pump. Thats all, no prpblems and many happy miles driven!
In fact all oil pump problems ive read about are from aftermarket brands.
In fact all oil pump problems ive read about are from aftermarket brands.
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Re: K8 vs KL oil pump
Yea, I opted not to replaced the pump, motor has only 130k miles. It was super clean...and now it runs.RX8SE3P wrote:Have rarely ever heard of someones stock oil pump failing. Id not bother. I rebuilt my engine and just cleaned the oil pump. Thats all, no prpblems and many happy miles driven!
In fact all oil pump problems ive read about are from aftermarket brands.
1993 Mazda Mx-3 GS-Sold ![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
1992 GS "The Bucket" Gone.
1993 GS 2.5 KLDE. Current daily.
92 GS 5spd for sale! Sold it....after I got a hatch cover in great condition![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
92 GS Auction Car, most expensive non-running mx-3 I have ever bought... Parted out and Crushed.
MY WORKLOG, check it out
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=79959
![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
1992 GS "The Bucket" Gone.
1993 GS 2.5 KLDE. Current daily.
92 GS 5spd for sale! Sold it....after I got a hatch cover in great condition
![Evil or Very Mad :evil:](./images/smilies/icon_evil.gif)
92 GS Auction Car, most expensive non-running mx-3 I have ever bought... Parted out and Crushed.
MY WORKLOG, check it out
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)