solo_ryder's How To: Warm air/Short ram intake

[Mad Cow]

Oh and BTW, have you tried mounting the VAF right on the TB? It would be level but I guess it could screw up the airflow and make it turbulent and stuff.♦

[solo_ryder]

I wouldnt try that for 4 reasons.

1 - It would look retarded
2 - Probably not a good idea and throw off all kinds of readins
3 - Wires dont reach that far for the VAF
4 - No way to run the PCV system that way

[SmoothMX3]

[Mad Cow]

My wires reach fine, and the PCV valve is hooked up to the IM, but your other 2 point are good. I'm just throwing out ideas here.

[Thassodar]

I'll probably be doing this on Friday, if I can get the couplers and pipe locally. If not I may have to order these on the interwebs and wait until next week. I'm going to be doing alot soon, but I'm really not used to having money to spend on my car. It's...magical.

[Thassodar]

Quick question, if I have the gigantic VAF (seen here
http://www.mx-3.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.ph ... =Short+Ram" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;), what changes would I need to make to your writeup? Shorter pipe I suppose? And would it be possible to get the MAF from a K8 MX-3 and use it instead?

Also you suggested an 2.5 inch pipe for a K8, why is that? Too much air? I personally wouldn't mind the 3 inch pipe, but I don't want to harm my engine.

I'd rather ask here and get answers for someone to find using the search function in the future, which is how I found the link above.

[_-Night-Shade-_]

Also you suggested an 2.5 inch pipe for a K8, why is that? Too much air? I personally wouldn't mind the 3 inch pipe, but I don't want to harm my engine.

I too don't see the point of using a 2.5" pipe, considering the bore on the K8 TB is exactly 3" in diameter, while on the KLZEs it's just over 3" so I would think a 3" pipe is perfect for the K8s. I'll be trying out this setup soon as well and plan on using a 3" pipe.

[mccabe]

Hey were are these part numbers from I went to napa and the filter was right but nothin else I got the tube not the cuplers were did you order them? What should I order I asked for a 3 inch coupler, and the 2.5 to 3 inch ones and they had no idea what I was looken for

[MX3-4U2NV]

Installed, idled high for a minute, then went to normal. Going for a drive now to work.

Cost me $56.29 CAD for all the parts. But got a Vibrant filter, not K&N.

[Mad Cow]

Ok this has been bugging me for a while, but what's the point of using an intake pipe with a bigger diameter than the exhaust pipe? You can only get so much air out, so you won't be able to get any more in. Or am I looking at this the wrong way?

[_-Night-Shade-_]

Oh I definitely don't think that's the right way of looking at it. It's all about getting the air into the engine as quickly as possible and as dense as possible. And it gets sucked in by a vaccuum created by the engine as opposed to being pushed out through the exhaust (not to mention it's much hotter so it moves much quicker) I don't think the intake air is ever as quick as the exhaust. Don't forget there are a lot more byproducts after combustion, not just air, due to the fuel being mixed together.

[Mad Cow]

Oh I definitely don't think that's the right way of looking at it. It's all about getting the air into the engine as quickly as possible and as dense as possible. And it gets sucked in by a vaccuum created by the engine as opposed to being pushed out through the exhaust (not to mention it's much hotter so it moves much quicker) I don't think the intake air is ever as quick as the exhaust. Don't forget there are a lot more byproducts after combustion, not just air, due to the fuel being mixed together.

So wouldn't that mean there are more exhaust gases, meaning that you need an even smaller intake tube? And since intake air gets to the engine by a vacuum, shouldn't a smaller intake tube be better to keep velocity high?

[_-Night-Shade-_]

Of course there are more exhaust gases. Don't forget our VAF pretty much limits the max amount of air that can enter at any time.

[Mad Cow]

Of course there are more exhaust gases. Don't forget our VAF pretty much limits the max amount of air that can enter at any time.

Even more reason so use a thinner intake tube.

[_-Night-Shade-_]

Meh, look at the stock intake. I guess it would be better at low rpms but at high rpms you'd be starving the engine of air with a thin intake.