SWAP EXPERIENCE !

Thumbs Up · Post by **Thumbs Up** » February 10th, 2005, 12:16 pm

Hello I live in the Northern Va. area and wanted to see if there was anyone around who could do / or help me with a KL03 swap into my stock GS ? anyone with any recommendations?

THANKS

lakersfan1 · Post by **lakersfan1** » February 10th, 2005, 7:45 pm

I believe Gro Harlem is in MD and I believe he posted some time ago that he'd be willing to do swaps for people for a few hundred dollars or something like that.

RizzeRocket · Post by **RizzeRocket** » February 10th, 2005, 10:28 pm

meh i'd give u hand but this is gonna be my first swap ever:) should be fun tho

mxmaz · Post by **mxmaz** » February 10th, 2005, 11:03 pm

Its really no more harder then pulling the stock k8 and throwing it back in. You just need the proper ecu and vaf. Any mechanic should have no troubles with it,.

2fazed · Post by **2fazed** » February 11th, 2005, 12:47 am

Try and match the years of your K8 and DE. 92 to 93 and 94 up.

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » February 11th, 2005, 2:02 am

I dont iunderstand but my friend luis told me they had trouble with his, he had to keep the k8 manifold because some sensors would not match and his engine looks not int the same place am my k8.. is it really that easy?

Thumbs Up · Post by **Thumbs Up** » February 11th, 2005, 6:16 am

Right I mean I know it is not suppose to be that hard to do, I just rather have someone who has done it help be bc I don't wanna have a headache trying to get it to work. Thanks though, I know theres gotta be someone in the D.C. Area though thats done this.

Thumbs Up · Post by **Thumbs Up** » February 11th, 2005, 6:20 am

Hey laker thanks is Harlem somewhere on the forum where I can contact him ? And Rizz yeah if it comes down to it I would def try to just do it and would be greatful to have a hand.

Thanks

lakersfan1 · Post by **lakersfan1** » February 11th, 2005, 11:35 am

2fazed wrote:Try and match the years of your K8 and DE. 92 to 93 and 94 up.

Why? The only thing I can think would be an issue would be the distributor from the MX3 would need to be used and the coolant neck from the MX3 used. Other than that, 92-97 are all interchangable.

Gro Harlem · Post by **Gro Harlem** » February 11th, 2005, 4:42 pm

I'm right here...i posted a thread about my enigne swap services here:

http://www.mx-3.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=38080

Gro Harlem · Post by **Gro Harlem** » February 11th, 2005, 4:43 pm

lakersfan1 wrote:
2fazed wrote:Try and match the years of your K8 and DE. 92 to 93 and 94 up.
Why? The only thing I can think would be an issue would be the distributor from the MX3 would need to be used and the coolant neck from the MX3 used. Other than that, 92-97 are all interchangable.

True, you can just swap teh coolant neck w/the 3rd coolant sensor if you need to. Thats the only difference I know of besides the disty which you can swap out w/ease.

Thumbs Up · Post by **Thumbs Up** » February 11th, 2005, 5:11 pm

Hey, Thanks alot I appreciate the help, I'll def. let you know Gro about the swap. Hopefully I can follow through with it.

Is your friends ZE still for sale? condition of the motor? miles? tranny? ....? So basically besides the 400 how much more is need for misc parts from your experiecne?

Gro Harlem · Post by **Gro Harlem** » February 15th, 2005, 1:07 am

I'll sell the engine for 840 (800 + md sales tax) bux flat out since that is what I paid and my a--hole friend never paid me back. The motor is unused & I witnessed the engine place test it on their machine, It started right up & looks pretty damn clean. I got pics AIM me if you want me to send you some.

I have the proper intake manifold & throttle body as well (the curved-neck) so we can insttall that as well.

No transmission. Is yours a 5spd or manual? I have spare 5spd parts, but not a full transmission.

Misc parts costs is up to you and what you want to replace. I HIGHLY suggest getting new timing belt & water pump, thermostat, spark plugs, thermostat gasket. Valve cover gaskets is up to you but you could get away with using some gasket maker on them. Oil, trans fluid, clutch, coolant, hoses and clamps if you wanna replace any. Stupid stuff like that really adds up. I'd say depending on the price of ur clutch and if you have to replace the axles, just the basic stuff costs no more than $150-200. Clutch can cost from 100-400 depending on if you get a performance one. Mine was 350. (ACT street clutch). I bought two new axles too, each were like 80 dollars.

Email or PM me or AIM me if you wanna chat about it. I can give you an idea of what kinds of things you can do.

2fazed · Post by **2fazed** » February 15th, 2005, 2:03 am

Gro Harlem wrote:
lakersfan1 wrote:
2fazed wrote:Try and match the years of your K8 and DE. 92 to 93 and 94 up.
Why? The only thing I can think would be an issue would be the distributor from the MX3 would need to be used and the coolant neck from the MX3 used. Other than that, 92-97 are all interchangable.
True, you can just swap teh coolant neck w/the 3rd coolant sensor if you need to. Thats the only difference I know of besides the disty which you can swap out w/ease.

When I researched the swap, before I got my DE, I was told from a 93 K8 to 94 DE, that modification to the sensors/wires were needed. I had a 93 K8 to 93 DE, and all the wires, sensors were fine. Besides exchanging the Vaf, Ecu, I had to use alot of the K8 parts instead of the DE, but didn't need to buy anything extra.

IanL · Post by **IanL** » February 15th, 2005, 6:11 am

The only wiring changes are:

No 3rd coolant sensor, so no wires for it, but if you tap the pipe and fit the sensor, it's no change
The wiring of the 3 pin connector on the disty is swapped round, but if you keep the old disty, it's no change.