Corksport stainless steel brake hoses

[RedAutobotMX3]

First of all, mods aren't doing jack atm, what with all the golf threads some bot is posting, it would seem.
2ndly, a bit of a warning for any Ebay users on here.
I had some collapsed lines in the rear of my DE-GS after replacing a caliper. Got a set of stainless steel braided lines off Ebay from a company named Orion Motorsports. First; P/F tore at at the meeting point for the line and male end hardware on the hard line side during and Autocross event. When all was said and done, I had replaced the D/F two more times as well before just going with an OEM unit from a parts store. Mind you, this is less than 90 days after original purchase. Orion sent me a full set of replacement lines, but at this point, its more of a safety issue than the money i spent or the quality of the product. The problem is, the hardware used to secure the line to the lower part of the strut and keep the line in place does not allow enough movement when at full wheel lock and is putting undue pressure on the hardlines as well now while being pulled. I dont think they were ever the right length, otherwise the bends in the lines to get them to fit while secure would allow freer movement of said line. I will be attempting to get my full money back.
3rdly now
Im looking to obviously find a much better fitting set of lines to compliment my slotted rotors and new pads. Corksport hopefully designed these themselves in house and actually made them to fit our cars? Idk, their big name now, but I never had any problems with them getting some other parts for this and my 323 GTX. They want 100$, which with shipping would be about twice what i paid for my last set. Increase Quality=increase quantity. Any other suggestions for some SS braided brake hoses?

[Daninski]

First of all, mods aren't doing jack atm, what with all the golf threads some bot is posting, it would seem.

Wow 47 posts and already dising the Mods, I dedicate this song to you my friend. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-fIn2QZgg

I have to say I some what agree but I don't necessarily blame the Mods I just think we need more of them here that's why I PM'd Jeff last week and volunteered 'Ryan' to be our next Mod. All in favour, PM Jeff.
http://www.mx-3.com/phpBB3/ucp.php?i=pm ... ompose&u=2

[Ryan]

You volunteered me?

I can't decide if thats rude or flattering.

I am a MX-3.com whore, I spend too much time on here....


But I too am looking for SS brake lines as I faded my brakes to the floor in my last road race session Only got them back after 6 hours of sitting.

[Daninski]

Not sure why you think SS brake lines will help with your brake fade? Usually it's a combination of fluid boiling so now you have air acting as a cushion or you need to install brakes that are meant for the track but then you will have brakes that are almost ineffective on the street. I know different brands do make different quality pads. Check out this site's products. http://www.performancefriction.com/

[Ryan]

The lines heat up with the fluid and become more flexible as well

[Nd4SpdSe]

There were some issues early on when they started to make the SS lines, but once they got them made in house, one one ever had a problem since. Franko had a thread about it a long time ago of course, maybe you could dig it up if you wish.

[Daninski]

The lines heat up with the fluid and become more flexible as well

That would mean a little more brake pedal travel but the brakes should still grab as effectively?
Here's what I've found to support my 'argument'
The reduction of friction termed brake fade is caused when the temperature reaches the "kneepoint" on the temperature-friction curve. In this form of fade, the brake pedal feels firm but there is reduced stopping ability. Fade can also be caused by the brake fluid boiling, with attendant release of compressible gases. In this type of fade, the brake pedal feels "spongy". This condition is worsened when there are contaminants in the fluid, such as water, which most types of brake fluids are prone to absorbing to varying degrees. For this reason brake fluid replacement is standard maintenance.
Now I do agree that changes in the internal diameter of the hose will result in less responsive but not less effective brakes. You simply have to apply more pedal to get the desired result.

[Josh]

I have had CS SS lines on my MX since CS has started making them, I have 100% faith in them. I installed them at the same time I did my rear brake drum to disk swap, and my master cylinder from the RS to GS master. Amazing is all I have to say. SS lines make the difference, they DO reduce fade. like Ryan mentioned. Come to think of it they have like over 50K miles on them. Not bad!

Right after I installed them did a brake check from 60mph to stop... all 4 wheels locked up... At 60 mph... I don't have ABS, But was impressed to say the least on how much SS lines improve the braking. It is the difference between stepping on a damp sponge vs stepping on a 2x4 block. I would highly recommend the clutch line as well.

[Ryan]

Dan, you're entirely correct. I still call the hoses heating part of brake fade. It moved my brakes from 1/4 inch play to and inch off the floor. When you're approaching a 80km corner at 170, and you have zero space between brake and turn, you want to know exactly where your brakes are, it doesn't matter if its watery fluid or flexible hoses, its all an undesirable thing caused by age and heat.