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This Thread Proves SuperK is an Idiot

Posted: June 18th, 2010, 8:05 pm
by SuperK
In the block. SH*(*& MOTHER *(&)^(&*^ F(*&^ F(*& F (*& F(*& F......



AAAHHH and it snapped half an inch below the surface of the block. I'm so pissed.

I was so careful, I had my torque wrench, I started at 30 then 60 then 90 then 110 AND IT SNAPPED AT 110 SH(* SH*(

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 18th, 2010, 8:17 pm
by umcamara
:(

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 18th, 2010, 8:34 pm
by RS_OBD'oh_2
weak.
There is a write up in one of my car mags with tips and what not. I can post stuff up if you'd like extraction tips

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 18th, 2010, 8:40 pm
by SuperK
I'm going to take it to a machine shop to see if they have anything they can use to take it out. If not, new block.

But definitely new torque wrench. Any brand preferences? I was going to go for a craftsman.

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 18th, 2010, 8:45 pm
by umcamara
SuperK wrote:I'm going to take it to a machine shop to see if they have anything they can use to take it out. If not, new block.

But definitely new torque wrench. Any brand preferences? I was going to go for a craftsman.
You figure the torque wrench is out of calibration? Were they new head-bolts? I know you're not an idiot, just curious how it happened.

I don't even know the diameter of the hole for the headbolts, but I'm assuming welding something to what's left of the bolt to get it out is not an option?

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 18th, 2010, 9:55 pm
by SuperK
I should have known. They weren't new headbolts, but in my other car I reused my headbolts just fine, and the manual says that they're reusable.

I should have known! The torque wrench broke a support bearing bracket bolt but I scratched it off to be that I had to get a small torque wrench in in lbs instead of trying to convert to ft lbs. Then it broke a camshaft cap bolt and I again subjected it to the fact I was converting to in lbs.

I was tightening down the bolts and I hit 90, *click* it was workign fine. As soon as I bumped it over 100, I did 110, and it kept on turning and I was like, "that's not good" so I tried another one, and still... so I tried another one and I felt like I was overtightening them all. SO I backed it down to 60 made sure it clicked which it did, did 90, click, that's fine, 100, click, OK, then I did one bolt at 110, click, OK so it's working, right? *turn turn turn* I started swearing I was overtightening, so I tried to get it reset again by lowering it down and reset it, and it worked good on the bolt, then the third one, thinking I had it all figured out and set, I started. I told my roommate, "This feels wierd. I don't like this. There's something wrong... I'm just going to do a little mor.... *snap* SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 18th, 2010, 10:00 pm
by SuperK
So then I took the torque wrench and launched it away while yelling, "*EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE* *EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE**EXPLETIVE*"



And here I am now. I don't have a cherry picker, a shop crane, a hoist, or a chain. No pneumatic tools and no way to get the axles off without them. I am currently endeavoring to separate the block from the transmission... without removing the transmission. I think it's going to work just fine as it's separating very well... but I need to get the block hoisted up before removing the last mount that's keeping the block in... and regardless of how awesome I think I am, there's no way in hell I'm pulling that block up by my manpower.

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 19th, 2010, 2:18 pm
by nos92mx3
why were you torquing them down to 110 ft lbs?

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 20th, 2010, 9:33 am
by SuperK
because specs call for 116-123 ft lbs

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 20th, 2010, 6:27 pm
by wytbishop
I'm sorry Kris. I know this will hurt you but I seriously am not trying to kick you while you're down. The 92' and 95' online manuals both clearly say to tighten the head bolts in 2 or 3 steps to 56-60lb-ft.

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 20th, 2010, 7:00 pm
by Ryan
I was using my torque wrench on my brothers truck, with exactly the same scenario.

60, feels good, 90, feels good, 110, this doesnt feel right... back down, try bumping it up again, and SNAP! s---!

torque wrench FTL. if you dont use it often enough, I think they seize on themselves. get a Snap-On.

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 20th, 2010, 7:07 pm
by Mi|<E
56-60 ft-lbs of torque in the service manual page B1-79

Where did you find over 100 ft-lbs?

Even ARP studs only go to 75 ft-lbs with their
moly lube they provide.

Re: i broke a headbolt....

Posted: June 20th, 2010, 11:53 pm
by SuperK
wytbishop wrote:The 92' and 95' online manuals both clearly say to tighten the head bolts in 2 or 3 steps to 56-60lb-ft.
....shiiiit. The Haynes manual was listed the torque specs on the whole engine and I traced the wrong line so apparently I'm blind.

Re: This Thread Proves SuperK is an Idiot

Posted: June 23rd, 2010, 12:32 am
by zreon
Ouch. I was in a similar situation with my old Fiero. I always triple check the line I am on now :/ Sorry to hear this K.

Re: This Thread Proves SuperK is an Idiot

Posted: June 23rd, 2010, 1:23 am
by wytbishop
YOu're not an idiot. Imagine being the guy at the stock exchange that entered a billion instead of a million and almost single handedly caved the American economy.

That guy was an idiot.