Redoing all + Introduction

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Sp3c5
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Redoing all + Introduction

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Hey everyone!

Introductions first, my name is Mitch, 17 years old and I am a proud owner of a Red Mx3 1992 with 230K on it. My lady neighbor sold it for $1,000 for wich my parents gave it to me as my graduation gift. It's got a few "niks" and "bumps" here and there but is in nice condition. Very little rust, only noticable on fenders. It as also been anti-rust sprayed since here in Montreal, the winter weather here is horrble with all the salt on the roads (very messy engine bay :evil: ).

Ive been reading http://www.mx-3.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for about 2 months now, very cool and fun to have at your disposal. All the stuff that can interchangeable with other cars and such is very cool.

Now for what I want to do:

I want to re-do my whole Suspensions, Shocks/Struts, Brake Discs, Brake Pads, Calipers, Rims and Tires + various other stuff. Now the first thing that comes to everybodys mind is money, dont worry, I got deep pockets (Only when I dont fell like being lazy, I work my own hours, 120$ a day avg. but I only work 3 days out of 7. Oh + my walmart job.) So as you can see, I work my money depending on my needs.

Now let's tackle each subject in the order I wrote them previously.

Suspensions: I don't know much about cars since I am still learning but as I can conclude, suspensions are springs ( Im so cool 8) ). The popular brands seem to be H&R Lowering Springs Kits or Eibach Pro Kit Lowering Springs. I hear there like 250$ for a set of 4. (oh btw, i did something STUPID, i went for that dropzone kit on ebay :oops: ) That's a days work in the garbage :evil: .

Shocks/Struts: Now eveyone seems to be talking about the Eibach Pro Kit Lowering Springs + ZX2 shocks combo. Now if I conclude correctly, the ZX2 shocks/struts are the STOCK shocks/struts on the Ford Escort ZX2, correct? So a trip to the junkyard can pretty much gimme "free" shocks/struts? What about like Tokico HP Struts made for the Mx3 if I can't find any? There like 90$ a piece from a website, is that more expensive then the ZX2 from a Ford Dealer?

Brake Discs/Pads + Calipers: I havent seen much topics about any 3 of these subjects. Suggestions with brand names, prices, dealers, sites, types like cross drilled, ceramic, semi-metalic and what not. What are the mesurments of the stock mx3 equipement and such so I can also do my own research. Also another thing that sounds interesting to do is to take off the drum system at the rear and put the GS equipement to make for a Rear Drum to Disc conversion. How hard could it really be?? + I got 2 friends of mine who just got there mechanic diplomas, so I got plenty of help not forgeting to mention im going to school to become an engineer.

Rims: I still haven't decided between 16" or 17" rims. Will 17" still fit after the loweing springs? If so, will i need like low profile tires? Ive read alot of threads about this but still very unclear. Lots of terms and lingo of wich im unfimiliar with, such like when poeple say something like 230/25/17 (No clue what that is) same for Offset and other words. I know on ebay I can get O.K looking 16" rims with a set of tires. http://cgi.ebay.ca/16-ROTA-BOOST-RIM-4X ... dZViewItem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Don't now about em' tires.. there Kumho but ebay always finds a way to screw you off.

Tires: Like I said previously, not to strong on the lingo. I know a couple of brands and stuff. Suggestion would be nice as I haven't red anything in that domain yet.

Various Other Stuff: Ok now other stuff like Strut bars, ill probably get the ones from Corksport as everyone seems to get that one (Front and Rear). Should I used the old other various small parts for my suspension and shocks or get brand new mounts, Strut/Shocks Boot w/bumper kit and so on...

Ok so thats about all I have to say but I would just like to throw out that im not trying to do the lazy way of things and get all the answers handed out to me like baby, I will continue reading and doing my research as I am (like i said) very new to all this. Just hints and direction would be a big thanks. I am willing to spend around $2,000 - $2,500 to re-do everything, if it aint enought, I could cut back on some high performance parts or stop waking at 1 everyday and go work :lol:

Another thing I want to say is that I plan to be doing like a BP-T swap late winter/early spring this is why I want to re-do my Supension/Shocks/Brakes to ensure a safer and better handling ride before getting more horsys and torque, seems logic to me, no?

Thanks in advance all!

-Mitch
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Struts/Springs - ZX2 w/ ground control coilovers or Koni Inserts and Ground Control Coilovers - If you don't wanna shell out that much money, get H&R springs. OEMFordparts.com call them up and ask for Kieth. Order the struts from him, and while you're at it get new strut mounts (the rubber part that sides ON the car) for a ZX2 or MX3 FROM ROCKAUTO - they're half the price.

Calipers - Go on rockauto.com and order some re-manufactured ones, or if you want to spend alot of time, you can take yours apart, sandblast them (depending on condition) and put them back together. This takes alot of time, I just did it - I would have rather forked over the extra money. Then go to napa or autozone and buy the brush-on caliper paint, and paint it all, and install it on the car. Brake fluid WILL EAT THE PAINT! So be careful.

Get some nice DOT 3 or DOT 4 brake fluid and flush the whole system.

New plugs/wires/fuel filer, air filter etc etc.

For Disks, I wouldn't get slotted or drilled, just get regular, you will most likely stop better anyway and they will make your pads last longer. I get alot of stuff from rockauto because it's cheap but check ebay too.

For any of this stuff you should spend less than $2000. The suspension I recommended costs about 850 or so when all is said and done. If you get the Ground Controls, you will have top have a machine shop drill out the top hats for you, or you can prob. ask ground control for a 22mm ID for the fronts. The backs fit fine.

With a 250k engine, you should start looking into getting a BP (since I think you have an RS) You'll need a new clutch, and might want to look into getting youre axles rebuilt while you're at it. For everything you want to do, plus a new engine I think you can do it all for $3000-3500. It depends on how much work you do yourself.
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I love my HP's (for the MX) and Eibach's. IF you are looking to upgrade your brakes.. KVR's (Canadian) and/or EBC rotors and greenstuff pads will do more than you should need. Do not take the drum-disc swap too lightly. There is much more to discs than you may think. Please search up on the swap and fluid distribution.
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Thanks for the input all!

I like the HP + Eibach combo alot for some reason probably because I have a Tokico Gas Shocky decal on the head on my bed :lol: .

I done the whole tune-up thing, Bosch Platinum Sparks Plugs, Bosch Premium Wire Set, Bosch Distributor Caps and Rotors and FRAM Air Filter.

I've also checked out the K-Sport springs, 250$. Im shure I could find em' cheaper somewhere. Was also looking at the coilovers, sexy stuff.

And for brakes, I should just get normal discs? Ive been loking at EBCs but they look hard to get for a candian consumer...

For clutches I was looking at Spec Stage 3 Kits. but one thing im confused with is that it ask if I have the 1.6L or the 1.8L. Now I know I have the 1.6L but the BP is 1.8L. but do they mean 1.8L V6 or just for 1.8L..?

And I found this BP-T engine. http://www.fnfmotors.ca/JDM-BP-Turbo-DO ... mazda7.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I live so close I can either pick it up, or get it shipped to my door for 47$ 0.o

Still looking and reading on tires and rims.

-Mitch
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Beware of Bosch. They're good products, they just don't like our cars that much, esp. the platinums. I've found the best plugs for the RS's are NGK V-Powers...theyre cheap too.
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Good first post Mitch. Lots of good questions.

The choice of which strut/spring combination should be based on the type of driving you're going to do. If you're going to be driving it daily as your main mode of transportation, using a very stiff set up will not be comfortable. You'll love it at first, but it will start to get on your nerves after a while. Generally speaking, any coil over setup will be fairly stiff. There are a variety of stiffnesses available in the replacement spring options. The Eibach springs are about the softest, most comfortable out there as they are just stock replacements for the Escort ZX2. I use them with Tokico struts and they are very comfortable and slightly stiffer than stock.

There are a couple of braking upgrades out there. K-Sport also makes a big brake kit for the MX-3. I'm not sure if anyone's tried it or not. One member has done a Wilwood big brake conversion and it looks very good, but it's a fair bit of work too. You can also find information on alot of this stuff on http://www.clubprotege.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; as the Protege and Escort chassis are derived from the same as ours. Guys on that forum are doing a lot of cool stuff worth checking out. I have seen a couple interesting "Big Brake" mods there. The GS rear disk upgrade has been done and works quite well, but as others have said, don't underestimate the amount of work it requires. Your standard brakes are pretty good if you do a good job replacing the components that typically wear out or sieze due to lack of maintenance.

If you're going to really completely recondition your suspension you need to do the bushings as well. I know a guy who can help you with that in the coming months...

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Ye, I will most lickely go for the HP + Eibach combo altough those K-Sport coilovers are just to sexy to get off my mind. Big brake kits look hella expensive, but so what :P Btw, when buying big brake kits, is that in pairs or in a pack of 4? I know I shouldnt take stuff to lightly like for the rear disc switch. To me, the hardest part would be to find a GS, I should start by finding out where my local junkyard is.. if I even do have.

About the Wilwood Big Brakes, they don't even have Mazda in there line of products, anyone know with wich Big Brake Kit one of the http://www.mx-3.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; member used?

-Mitch

(Oh I am just dreaming of K-sport goodies all around, so expensive, so beautifull :D )
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