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Newb has questions!
Hi sorry, i know you guys have prly all heard this questions in some way or another because it seems a pretty basic thing to wonder about but im having trouble finding specific answers.
First, I have a 92 1.6L sohc mx3 and i was wondering what engines can even fit in this car to boost hp?
Second, what other things can you do to boost hp without an engine swap?
Third, if I were to consider putting on a turbo what else should I maybe consider replacing as well as to not run my engine currently on it to hell.
Sorry again, this is my first real car with even a slight bit of potential and Im just looking to work on it and learn more. thank you.
First, I have a 92 1.6L sohc mx3 and i was wondering what engines can even fit in this car to boost hp?
Second, what other things can you do to boost hp without an engine swap?
Third, if I were to consider putting on a turbo what else should I maybe consider replacing as well as to not run my engine currently on it to hell.
Sorry again, this is my first real car with even a slight bit of potential and Im just looking to work on it and learn more. thank you.
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Re: Newb has questions!
Search. Do it for about a week. All your questions are answered before, and someone else will tell you this if I don't.
Um, BP swap is best for the SOHC, its really just plug and play. That engine was built for a turbo, too. You can get one, (with some difficulty) pre turbo'd, called a BPT. that'll boost you to 200hp from 88. Hope your wallet is fat, though.
Without swap... the usual... intake, exhaust... a bigger throttle body... just search long and hard.... theres a whole section on 4cyl tech/performance, something like 4000 threads in it. Search search search away....
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Um, BP swap is best for the SOHC, its really just plug and play. That engine was built for a turbo, too. You can get one, (with some difficulty) pre turbo'd, called a BPT. that'll boost you to 200hp from 88. Hope your wallet is fat, though.
Without swap... the usual... intake, exhaust... a bigger throttle body... just search long and hard.... theres a whole section on 4cyl tech/performance, something like 4000 threads in it. Search search search away....
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ROOKIE's
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You mean NOOBS right? lolLimegreen mx-3 wrote:ROOKIE's
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Savin wrote:You mean NOOBS right? lolLimegreen mx-3 wrote:ROOKIE's
there both somewhat the same "clueless"
don't u think..
but i got to say at least he stated he had "trouble finding specific answers."
"is my first real car with even a slight bit of potential (reason for rookie)"
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(12.4@118@18psi) 92 MX-3, KIA (BP-DE)Swap, Electromotive TEC II Standalone, 8,200 Rev Limit, Custom Intake/Exhaust Manifold, 1,000cc PTE Injectors, Custom Fuel Rail, Aeromotive FPR, 80MM Holley TB, MSD 8.5MM Wires, NGK V-Power #8, SC6262 Turbo, 3 in. DownPipe, Tial WG/BOV, 600HP PTE FMIC, 2.5IN Intercooler Piping, EQUUS/Autometer KIA G-Series Tran, Extreme ACT Clutch, Built BP in starting process.
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or could it also be "dumb-dumb" as in "You dumb-dumb, read before posting."Limegreen mx-3 wrote:Savin wrote:You mean NOOBS right? lolLimegreen mx-3 wrote:ROOKIE's
there both somewhat the same "clueless"
don't u think..
'95 MX-3 RS - Project "Déjà Vu" Destined for the scrapyard.
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
'95 Cavalier Base - Scrapped
'94 Thunderbird LX - Collects dust
'89 Mustang GT - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
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lets not get to harshSavin wrote:or could it also be "dumb-dumb" as in "You dumb-dumb, read before posting."Limegreen mx-3 wrote:
there both somewhat the same "clueless"
don't u think..
(12.4@118@18psi) 92 MX-3, KIA (BP-DE)Swap, Electromotive TEC II Standalone, 8,200 Rev Limit, Custom Intake/Exhaust Manifold, 1,000cc PTE Injectors, Custom Fuel Rail, Aeromotive FPR, 80MM Holley TB, MSD 8.5MM Wires, NGK V-Power #8, SC6262 Turbo, 3 in. DownPipe, Tial WG/BOV, 600HP PTE FMIC, 2.5IN Intercooler Piping, EQUUS/Autometer KIA G-Series Tran, Extreme ACT Clutch, Built BP in starting process.
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Ok....it was fun while it lasted. I must listen to the superiors....
'95 MX-3 RS - Project "Déjà Vu" Destined for the scrapyard.
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
'95 Cavalier Base - Scrapped
'94 Thunderbird LX - Collects dust
'89 Mustang GT - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
'95 Cavalier Base - Scrapped
'94 Thunderbird LX - Collects dust
'89 Mustang GT - SOLD!
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Savin wrote: Ok....it was fun while it lasted. I must listen to the superiors....
by no means am i a superiors im just a avg. guy that does crazy things with the MX-3.
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Well technically you are older/wiser. That makes you superior, or at least OLDer. And I respect the more knowledgable people on these boards, even if I don't show it, haha.Limegreen mx-3 wrote:Savin wrote: Ok....it was fun while it lasted. I must listen to the superiors....
by no means am i a superiors im just a avg. guy that does crazy things with the MX-3.
'95 MX-3 RS - Project "Déjà Vu" Destined for the scrapyard.
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
'95 Cavalier Base - Scrapped
'94 Thunderbird LX - Collects dust
'89 Mustang GT - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS - SOLD!
'93 MX-3 GS SE - Parts car!
'94 MX-3 GS - Scrapped
'94 MX-3 RS - Scrapped
'96 Sunfire SE - Scrapped
'03 Sunfire SE - Deathtrap
'95 Cavalier Base - Scrapped
'94 Thunderbird LX - Collects dust
'89 Mustang GT - SOLD!
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Re: Newb has questions!
its crazy how knowing a decent bit abt one subject all of a sudden supposedly makes you "wise", or whatever word you chose throw at someone with a possible penchant for money tossing and a dedication to a single subject. Im a "noob" in the car world, doesnt make me less "wise". Ridiculing sure is the way to boost ur self-esteem isn't it? I mean, i could throw terms around like I had, josh on u and ur "inexperience" in things I know well about. However, if i knew a lot about this car I sure wouldn't be on here, I'd be doing the work already with my oh so infinite knowledge, such as some of you think you have, not to the guy who admitted the truth of his beign average. I asked that question vaguely of course to learn. Start of with generalizing and you'll get your general answers, specify for more detail if necassary. Don't negatively criticize me for a want to learn of something all of you supposedly have some deal of interest in. Not right is it?
Thanks for your help, or lack there of.
Thanks for your help, or lack there of.
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Please try not to take things the wrong way. It's all about asking the right questions. If you ask something that probably has 1000 posts and full worklogs... you may get a bit of attitude. The whole "wise" deal.. being a car forum, will generally pertain to what someone knows about the mx. This has no impact outside the forums. Lets face it, there will always be someone who knows more about one topic or another. When it comes to Lime, his world is the bp swap and everything that can be done to it. One would be better off to get on the good side of the more experienced members.
There is plenty of info and help on mx-3.com... but it's best to do some reading in related topics. After you read the 4 cyl faq's, you'll find that you will be able to ask better questions. In turn you will get better answers.
Best of luck.
There is plenty of info and help on mx-3.com... but it's best to do some reading in related topics. After you read the 4 cyl faq's, you'll find that you will be able to ask better questions. In turn you will get better answers.
Best of luck.
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Here you go..derikjakob wrote: First, I have a 92 1.6L sohc mx3 and i was wondering what engines can even fit in this car to boost hp?
Being that u have a 92 mx-3 and im going on a hunch that is auto (if not i retract my statement) but if its manual.. another mazda engine that u can swap into given that u do the plug & play version if u decide to go that route is a 1.8 DOHC mazda engine code name BP.. found in the 90-94 mazda protege LX, 95-97 Ford escort GT, 94-97 Kia Sephia, and other models ( i wrote this stuff somewhere on here) these makes & models are for the BP and trans itself. . now for the other stuff u'll need is the wiring harness and ecu that i recommend getting from a mazda protege. know if u decide to stay with the 1.6 sohc trans u can.. it will bolt up to the BP but u will need to use the flywheel and clutch from the sohc and bolt it up to the BP.. now u can do a BP swap and boost HP from 88HP to 125HP this is flywheel HP NOT wheel HP..
sad to say ur current SOHC can not make power to kick u back in ur sit like the BP can.. there a some bolt up upgrades u can do but its not going to get u more that 10 HP. max..derikjakob wrote:Second, what other things can you do to boost hp without an engine swap?
1. upgrade ur mass air flow meter that metal looking box connect to ur intake.. replacement will come from a 2nd gen RX-7.. and make sure u get the vaf its bigger in size flow more than the tiny one the sohc MX-3 comes with.... this item can be found at a local Junkyard.
2. u can upgrade ur 55mm TB (throttle body) to that of a 60mm TB from a 90-94 mazda protege LX.. and lond as it comes from a BP.. note if ur manual get manual if ur auto get auto.. the TPS on the manual and auto are different... this item can be found at a local Junkyard.
3. invest in a CAI (cold air intake) won't do much but better than nothing.. this item can be found on ebay.
4. u can also upgrade to a lighten UDP (under drive pulley) but u'll need to change both ur alt. belt and PS and A/C belts to a smaller sized belt.. this item can be found on ebay.
5. as for a fuel upgrade u can swap in the injectors from a BP, upgrade ur fuel pump from a
2nd gen RX-7 or 1st gen MX-6 GT.. and FPR from a 2nd gen MX-6 V6. this item can be found at a local Junkyard.
6. To increase ur rev limit from 6500 rps to 7200-7500 RPS u can swap out the MX-3 ecu and swap in the mazda protege LX ecu. i did that a very long time ago when i was slow and i doubt it will make significant different other that raise ur rev limit.. this item can be found at a local Junkyard.
7. upgrade ur exhaust piping from factory. 2 to 2 1/4 in piping from ur cat if u want to keep it get rid of it all the way to ur muffler aka coffee can.. u can find a upgrade muffler on ebay and get the exhaust piping upgraded at any muffler shop..
8. u can upgrade ur clutch if its standard to a ACT or Center Force.. both are good. if ur auto tough luck u abuse it and it will take a shyt on you.. that why i hate mazda auto there are weak. item can be found at a parts store ebay..
9. there are few more but i think i wrote enough again the 1.6 sohc code name B6ME is not a power house maker in N/A form ( all motor) and no one i believe has ever made 300whp in boost on a 1.6 sohc like the turbo BP's have.. i like to take a crack at that..
don't bother with boosting a sohc there is no turbo support for that engine everything will have to be custom made.. and i doubt u'll willing to spend the DOUGH for a decent turbo setup.. ( i could be wrong) believe me everything on my boosted SOHC MX-3 is all custom made and im 2000-3000 invested in it so far and im still not done with it..derikjakob wrote:Third, if I were to consider putting on a turbo what else should I maybe consider replacing as well as to not run my engine currently on it to hell.
Thanks for your help, or lack there of. Not right is it? as for ur outrage in asking for help Im not even going to go there..derikjakob wrote:Sorry again, this is my first real car with even a slight bit of potential and Im just looking to work on it and learn more. thank you.
(12.4@118@18psi) 92 MX-3, KIA (BP-DE)Swap, Electromotive TEC II Standalone, 8,200 Rev Limit, Custom Intake/Exhaust Manifold, 1,000cc PTE Injectors, Custom Fuel Rail, Aeromotive FPR, 80MM Holley TB, MSD 8.5MM Wires, NGK V-Power #8, SC6262 Turbo, 3 in. DownPipe, Tial WG/BOV, 600HP PTE FMIC, 2.5IN Intercooler Piping, EQUUS/Autometer KIA G-Series Tran, Extreme ACT Clutch, Built BP in starting process.
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Re: Newb has questions!
thanks. less of an outrage and more of a dismay. i just wasnt expecting to be criticized just for asking a question so i sort of got turned off to this forum by that. but you definately just helped and made up for it a few times over.