Brake calipers :(
Brake calipers :(
So we started to do my back brake rotors / pads today, we eventually finished the left side, there was a lot of rust and corrosion. We couldn't get the caliper piston to move in to make the pads fit more freely, and when we put it back together the pads are really tight to the rotor and makes them INSANELY hot when i drive. I drove app 3 km got out just to check to see how hot they were didn't seem hot so i touch them with the back of my 2 fingers and burned the skin right off all you heard was a sizzle . It was funny though i was like oh f--- thats hot hahah. So then we started on the other side and didn't get very far at all, it looked like someone already put on pads a while ago and the douche left pins off, and striped out the 2 bolts which wont let us move the caliper to take off the rotor : ' (. Is there any way to free up that caliper piston with out getting a new calipers of course >_< and any suggestions on how to get off those stripped bolts? we were going to grind them off but then realized we had no way to get the rest off the bolt out . here is a pic of the semi done side haha.
Here is a pic with it all off, rust makes me wanna
Here is a pic with it all off, rust makes me wanna
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Re: Brake calipers :(
You can use a large c-clamp to compress the pistons.
Heat up those stripped bolts really good, then use a solid pair of vice grips, super super super suuuper tighten them. If its the bolts that the caliper actually slides on, there's rubber boots inside those, so you may not want to melt those. But if it's the bolts that connect the calipers to the spindles, there's no rubber, so heat away.
Heat up those stripped bolts really good, then use a solid pair of vice grips, super super super suuuper tighten them. If its the bolts that the caliper actually slides on, there's rubber boots inside those, so you may not want to melt those. But if it's the bolts that connect the calipers to the spindles, there's no rubber, so heat away.
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Re: Brake calipers :(
Without trying to be too negative, you will never get those calipers to work properly. The rubber boots that were mentioned tend to seize so that the caliper won't float. Once that's happened I don't think there's any way to free them up without destroying them. And the caliper bolts...if there corroded enough that someone already stripped the heads they will likely break before coming out.
I ran into this exact problem on my 94'. New rear calipers ran me about $250. You might find a car in a wrecker with usable calipers and save some money...but one way or another I think you'll be changing them.
I ran into this exact problem on my 94'. New rear calipers ran me about $250. You might find a car in a wrecker with usable calipers and save some money...but one way or another I think you'll be changing them.
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Re: Brake calipers :(
Wytbishop's right... but you should be able to find calipers cheaper than $250. I can get them from Piston Ring here in Winnipeg for $50 each. They aren't super dooper performance models, but calipers none-the-less.
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Hate to say, but rear calipers are expensive. Wytbishop's $250 is about right for 2 rebuilt rear calipers. The very cheapest I've seen are at Autozone - $165 for a pair of rear loaded calipers (these should include all the mounting hardware and pads). You can find the Autozone models here.
FWIW I also agree that you should focus on replacing these calipers. At some point there is no turning back and you are there.
FWIW I also agree that you should focus on replacing these calipers. At some point there is no turning back and you are there.
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Welll... first of all, that $160 is cheaper than $250. Plus, I wasn't talking about loaded calipers (pads, etc), just the calipers as I said. Those are $50 a piece at Princess Auto.
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Cost is really regional. I typically end up paying more for stuff because the good deals always require lots of shipping anyway. Even if it would be a little cheaper I'll usually just buy local because it's easier.
You might be able to find a cheaper caliper than I did.
You might be able to find a cheaper caliper than I did.
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Re: Brake calipers :(
Princess Auto carries MX-3 calipers? This makes no sense to me. Please explain.umcamara wrote:Welll... first of all, that $160 is cheaper than $250. Plus, I wasn't talking about loaded calipers (pads, etc), just the calipers as I said. Those are $50 a piece at Princess Auto.
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Re: Brake calipers :(
I meant Piston Ring. That's what I typed a couple threads up... then I accidentally typed Princess Auto.
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I bought rear calipers at advance auto last year or something and they were about $135 a side (loaded)... and I also got a lifetime warranty!
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dont the rear calipers screw in not push in?
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Re: Brake calipers :(
I know the front pistons push in. I'm not too sure about the rear ones.
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failed disregard my comment lol it's the rears that screw in...umcamara wrote:I know the front pistons push in. I'm not too sure about the rear ones.
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Re: Brake calipers :(
I just serviced my brakes, and my front pistons push in. Mind you, mine's an RS. But I can guarantee you that my fronts push in. As far as I can tell, they're stock calipers.
Re: Brake calipers :(
Wow we were at the back breaks with the C clamp for ever trying to get them to push in hahah so many curse words came pout of my mouth. I thought they were seized up cause they wouldn't push in but obviously not ha. So is that how you adjust them? but screwing it in and out? When i put it back together its rubbing really hard and making the rotor mega hot. So should i take it off and adjust the piston?