Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
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MX3-Life
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Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
I'm thinking about buying a Intercooler for my 94 MX3 GS and until i get my turbo i want to connect it to my Cold Air Intake System... I think it will increase the HP by some but not alot. Any thoughts on this? Or should i just wait awhile till i got the Turbo and if anyone has a good place to buy Intercoolers for a 94 Mazda MX-3 GS links would help alot thanks.
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ElectricEnergy
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
It'd be easy enough to do, but I wouldn't bother. You won't see any power gains. An intercooler doesn't actually make air colder, it just makes it closer to the same temperature as the air outside the car. This is a big advantage with turbochargers because they heat up the air significantly. A cold air intake should already be drawing in the coldest possible air from the atmosphere.
The temperature that the air drops to after passing through the intercooler doesn't have a huge effect directly on power output. It allows you to increase your boost even more without detonation, thats where the real power gains come from.
If you install the intercooler without a turbo, all your going to do is reduce your throttle response.
I definitely suggest reading "Maximum Boost" By Corky Bell before piecing together your turbo setup. Before working on my friends Turbo Silvia I read it cover to cover and I learned a lot.
David
The temperature that the air drops to after passing through the intercooler doesn't have a huge effect directly on power output. It allows you to increase your boost even more without detonation, thats where the real power gains come from.
If you install the intercooler without a turbo, all your going to do is reduce your throttle response.
I definitely suggest reading "Maximum Boost" By Corky Bell before piecing together your turbo setup. Before working on my friends Turbo Silvia I read it cover to cover and I learned a lot.
David
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tehbrookzorz
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
You're just looking for an excuse to test-fit your intercooler, aren't you? haha.
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Juans_93_MX3
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
Sounds something like what a RICER might do
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1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
1993 MX3 GS
KLZE, Fidanza flywheel, KL31 CAMs, South Bend Stage I Clutch, Pacesetter STS, SS AutoChromes, Magnaflow muffler, 2.25' Exhaust, CAI, Blaster Coil HEI, KLDE Valvetrain, 5 Speed Swap
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se7en
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
well, I think that it would be funny to do....
kinda like the fake BOV's people put on there exhaust tips, and electric superchargers!
mad v3tc yo !!!1
!!11!!11!!!!one
!!!!111
fast and flimziest.
heh.
it isn't such a bad idea to test fit it though...
why not
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ps. it will give you 500whp just like the civics guys get.
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kinda like the fake BOV's people put on there exhaust tips, and electric superchargers!
mad v3tc yo !!!1
!!11!!11!!!!one
!!!!111
fast and flimziest.
heh.
it isn't such a bad idea to test fit it though...
why not
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ps. it will give you 500whp just like the civics guys get.
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Flinch
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
Hey man i thought long and hard on this subject because i wanted to do an NA build. I was going to incercool my cold air intake than spray it with CO2 from a remote line. Adding an intercooler will decrease throttle responce and power, its meant to have air forced through it not sucked through as the motor demands. it woould be like you trying to breath through a straw that is a foot long, than try breathing though a straw that is 2 feet long. the 2 foot straw is better when air is forced through it because it gives the air a longer period of time to cool down plus you are increasing the flow and the velocity.
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-Turbo running 7.5psi
-FMI 3"x12"x32" all alluminum and welded, have a 7.5 PSI spring she just creeps on cold nights
-ACT 6puck sprung/96 probe tranny
-Short shifter
-HEI and MSD 6al (makes a big difference when you spend the 65$ ont he right spark plugs)
-KYB GR-2 struts with H & R springs
-Megan racing seats
-Personal 280mm stearing wheel
-Familia rear strut tower bar
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93MX3KLZE-T
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
It would be a bad idea.
93 MX-3 GS, KL-ZE, T304E ***SOLD***
221.9 whp 219.0 wtq @ 5 psi untuned
13.4 @ 108 mph
221.9 whp 219.0 wtq @ 5 psi untuned
13.4 @ 108 mph
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SmoothMX3
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
Or... You can go on ebay and buy one of those intercooler intakes. search it on ebay.
If I was you I wouldn't do it, because for one, it's pretty rice and two.. i just wouldn't do it.
If I was you I wouldn't do it, because for one, it's pretty rice and two.. i just wouldn't do it.
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
hahaha ah man i had a good laugh.tehbrookzorz wrote:
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
heh. that would work awesome! all people should get one of thosetehbrookzorz wrote:
oh oh...I think my vtec kicked in....YOOOOOOOOO.
1992 mx-3 GS-T, 10-12psi, T3/t4 hybrid, Turbosmart WG, AFPR, SSAC TURBO pipes, MSD Blaster coil, K&N, AEM W/B, MSnS(full standalone), 225Whp street tuned(10psi), 245Whp (12psi)(300bhp!!!)
1992 Fairlady Z(JDM RHD) 2+2 TT black(done!)700whp+
My Feedback
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tehbrookzorz
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
MX3-Life wrote:Thats the intake on God's Car.
No, I think you're wrong....
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SmoothMX3
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Re: Intercooler to Cold Air Intake
Are you serious?
Please tell me that was photoshopped and it's not forreal?
The things people do... lol
Please tell me that was photoshopped and it's not forreal?
The things people do... lol
93 MX-3 2.5 KLZE - KL101 \\ H&R Springs \\ Short Shifter \\ 17" ADR Rims \\ 205/40/R17 Namkang Tires \\ Millenia Manifold \\ Rockford Amp \\ Rockford 12" Sub \\
--- K8 was my gateway drug.