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B6de,boosting it
Posted: October 30th, 2007, 6:55 am
by Tanner_gr
I have a 1.6l dohc 97 with 118.000klm about 73750miles(at really good condition).I already have a k03 t25 (from a seat leon cupra) and a fmic big enough.Assuming that lowering the compression at about 8.0:1 how many bar/psi should i run it,an how many would be the horsepower?
Posted: October 30th, 2007, 7:06 am
by Tanner_gr
this hitting the rev limiter in 5th gear stock 1.6l motor with only a catback exhaust.
Ps. it's km/h(about 131 ml/h
Posted: November 1st, 2007, 4:30 am
by Tanner_gr
anyone?
Posted: November 1st, 2007, 6:16 am
by hotsiit
No idea what kind of power you could make, but I am / was running a T3 super 60 turbo on my SOHC 1.6l 4cyl stock (North American) motor, at 9psi. The only problem I had was alot of blow-by...basically shooting lots of oil out of the breather filter on the valve cover.
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Other than that, the motor ran 9psi fine for years, could probably handle more, maybe?
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Posted: November 1st, 2007, 9:32 am
by osargeant
I run around 11psi on a standard compression B6 motor, it is all about tuning, fuel and ignition control.
I have seen the miata guys run 15/16 psi on these B6 motors with proper engine management and tuning.
Posted: November 3rd, 2007, 8:23 pm
by se7en
from what I understand from reading on this board, the dohc will handle 10psi with minor mods(fuel manage, timing retard etc) you won't have to lower the compression at all, 9:1 will be fine.
200hp will be easy, and 230 will be not too hard.
good luck!
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Posted: November 4th, 2007, 4:15 pm
by Limegreen mx-3
a friend of mine has a lil 94 mazda miata with the 1.6 b6de with a setup simluair to mine.. all the good stuff
what i don't get is that lil b6 can take a beating. at one point i was at 25psi making 334rwhp on a gt32 turbo... now his on a 57trim turbo at 15psi number are not known at this point.
i been through 3 bp's 5 trannys and he still has the damn b6 going on for a year. what gives that b6 can take a beating.
Re: B6de,boosting it
Posted: January 14th, 2008, 6:08 am
by Tanner_gr
so i bought the parts i wanted (garrett tb02 47trim turbo , 48trim comp),fmic,emanage blue(already installed) with injectors and advance harness,323 gtx injectors and now im up to buy wideband,maybe zeitronix.
besides i decided to lower the static compression to 8,5:1 with a metallic head gasket so i can be sure.
you think 1bar will be safe? and also,before or after the turbo should i put the maf?
Re: B6de,boosting it
Posted: January 14th, 2008, 8:14 am
by Limegreen mx-3
get rid of that POS e-manage blue. sell it get rid of it or get ur money back..
your better off with a Mega squirt II than a e-manage why..
a e-manage is still a piggy-back and a MS-II is a standalone system.
compression wise u are fine unless u keep ur e-manage
but hey its ur setup..
can't stress how important a EMS if vital to a turbo setup. a piggyback just won't cut it.
Re: B6de,boosting it
Posted: February 5th, 2008, 10:57 pm
by nos92mx3
you guys need to start giving these motors some credit.
My b6t/de handled 18 psi like a champ with a vj17/14 hybrid, with a fairly aggressive timing map (i only had the disty retarded 2*) and safe air fuel ratios
Re: B6de,boosting it
Posted: February 16th, 2008, 3:29 am
by Tanner_gr
Now the car is almost done.
another issue that worries me is when i have boost in closed loop situations.The ecu has an aggressive closed loop session,so i will defenately have a problem and i need an o2 clamp?
Re: B6de,boosting it
Posted: February 17th, 2008, 4:08 am
by Tanner_gr
Tanner_gr wrote:Now the car is almost done.
another issue that worries me is when i have boost in closed loop situations.The ecu has an aggressive closed loop session,so i will defenately have a problem and i need an o2 clamp?
anyone? am on a rush.
Re: B6de,boosting it
Posted: February 17th, 2008, 12:08 pm
by se7en
what is an o2 clamp?
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Re: B6de,boosting it
Posted: February 18th, 2008, 12:19 am
by thepurpleone
i have a 94 mazda mx3 rs with a b6de and it has about 142000 miles, i have a t25 turbo off an eclipse but, thats about all i have right now. i guess my question is, what all do i need to finish the rest of my dream (to turbo my mx3 rs)?
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Re: B6de,boosting it
Posted: February 18th, 2008, 12:37 pm
by se7en
well, you are going to need a wastegate, turbo manifold, wideband o2, better fuel pump, bigger injectors, intercooler, and piping, and a good EMS, and a few other small things.... good luck.