Paranoid

Timmie_g · Post by **Timmie_g** » July 31st, 2007, 1:28 am

Hey guys,

No matter what the outcome its really not an issue now cause the engine is in and running, but im still paranoid that i got ripped off when i bought my"ZE"

It has a curved neck with square runners and square ports but the head codes are KL 101 and KL 1A1 with KL 01 cams. The manifold had lots of japanese writing on it and also said EUNOS 800 directly on the manifold. There was no EGR on this engine, it had eliminator plates installed where the EGR would normally be but at the same time anyone can put a plate over a hole.

Through searching about this topic i become more and more discouraged because the bulk of the information i find tells me this is not a ZE but there are a few posts saying that it still is a true ZE. I have not removed the heads to look at the pistons and i cant tell if they are dished from looking in the spark plug holes.

I bought it from a pretty reputable shop here in town so id like to think they wouldnt jerk me around but then again they are running a business.

If anyone has any more information that could help me then please let me know.

MazdaNoob123 · Post by **MazdaNoob123** » July 31st, 2007, 1:36 am

sorry to say but as far as i know u got screwed...
The Millenia ZE from my knowledge has KL31 heads with KL01 cams and DE valve springs and Retainers(intake valve springs are the same size as the Exhaust instead of the Intake valves being bigger than the exhaust)

thus this means u got a DE with a millenia IM...
Id go talk to them about it... cause KL101 heads arent nearly as performance friendly as the KL31 heads, as far as i know...

PATDIESEL · Post by **PATDIESEL** » July 31st, 2007, 2:25 am

This post is useless without pics. Post some so that we can see what you are looking at.

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » July 31st, 2007, 2:57 am

yeah it seems like a millenia ze :*( the head codes say it all. Doesnt mean its not a good engine... still you did not get what you wanted..

Timmie_g · Post by **Timmie_g** » July 31st, 2007, 2:58 am

K well here are the best i could do for now as its cark outside and the engine is in the car. im going to pull the manifold off tomorrow to check the ports on the head again but as you can see from the pics its got square runners, everything has been painted now so you wont see any of the japanese writing i was talking about, but like i said KL 101/1A1 heads KL 01 cams KL 68 tb curved neck ZE manifold

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Timmie_g · Post by **Timmie_g** » July 31st, 2007, 3:06 am

well if indeed it is a millenia ZE then when i pull the manifold off tomorrow what will i see and im going to do a compression test as well to see what numbers i pull from it.

im not sure what im gonna do i paid 1100 cdn for the engie after shipping and taxes and if indeed it is a ZE then i dont really have a case ill go back to the shop regardless casue the engine is in much better condition now than when i picked it up from them but still id like to get what i wanted as you said.

i was under the impression he was getting me a straight neck but becasue of the difficulty of putting a straight neck in a mx 3 he ordered a curved neck specifically. i beleive him cause he seems like a good guy but i had already had arrangements to swap manifolds with a PGT guy. He wasnt aware of that, he was just trying to make my life easier... thats his story anyway

bdr2k5 · Post by **bdr2k5** » July 31st, 2007, 10:37 am

there u go
http://www.geocities.com/viv95pgt/klze.html

Timmie_g · Post by **Timmie_g** » July 31st, 2007, 12:18 pm

that list says nothing almost everything checks out with the american millenia engine but my head codes are different and for it to be the austrailian engine id need to have d shaped ports where as mine are square

Timmie_g · Post by **Timmie_g** » August 1st, 2007, 2:16 am

its a ZE i warmed it up and did a compression test, the lowest number i got was 207 psi

so theres no way a DE is putting out that for compression

mx3autozam · Post by **mx3autozam** » August 1st, 2007, 2:37 am

Timmie_g wrote:its a ZE i warmed it up and did a compression test, the lowest number i got was 207 psi

so theres no way a DE is putting out that for compression

sure a de can put out thsoe numbers.

talk to solo_ryder I belive his engine is just like yours square ports but heads are kl01 1a1

hgallegos915 · Post by **hgallegos915** » August 1st, 2007, 3:07 am

actually the millenia de , i believe can pull off those compression numbers.

Kirk95gs · Post by **Kirk95gs** » August 1st, 2007, 6:03 am

Hey there,

I ran into the same prob. Just got my motor a month ago... same story... I do belive we have a newer ze, 2001+ that came with kl101 1a1 heads.... talk to solo... he helped me out alot...

http://www.lowmotion.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=122286

There is some pictures of my motot.. it is the exact same as solo's..... and by the sounds of it.. yours....

let me know what you come up with

blackops032 · Post by **blackops032** » August 1st, 2007, 6:47 pm

i think you got ripped off by the sounds of it