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For ZE owners that have suffered dropped valves..

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 12:43 pm
by Tunes67
Just a curiosity poll really.. just trying to see if there is a common denominator for the ZE engines that have broken valve retainers and have sucked valves as a result. Also if you or someone has additional information about the engine (Like when & how it went down) if you could post it in this thread as well.. that would be awesome. If you know someone on Probetalk or MX-6.com or elsewhere that had this happen.. please steer them to this thread :) Thanks

Tunes67

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 12:48 pm
by babyblueMX3
I had the problem.

2-crack retainer
both are on the intake side

happened while misshifting
one drop instantly
the other one broke while I took the head off !!

IIRC both happened on the front head (left one)

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 1:40 pm
by Tunes67
Which engine did you have Steve?

Tunes67

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 1:43 pm
by babyblueMX3
Tunes67 wrote:Which engine did you have Steve?

Tunes67
klze with originally long neck intake and kl31 cams)

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 3:34 pm
by PATDIESEL
That is basically what I've heard too, mis-shifts or over revving are when they break retainers.

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 3:55 pm
by Mnemonic
but thats where i'm curious along with tunes, is it just in the straight necks or is a problem that lies in all ZEs PAT LETS GO RIPP APART OUR ZE's, ::slaps self in face:: no no no we will not tear apart the motor unless we are putting in better parts :)

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 3:56 pm
by babyblueMX3
PATDIESEL wrote:That is basically what I've heard too, mis-shifts or over revving are when they break retainers.
I know some dropped them while driving out their drive way too.

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 4:38 pm
by Nd4SpdSe
Although possible, did those people by chance have a history of being hard on their motors?

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 8:40 pm
by hgallegos915
I dont think i have yet heard of anyone dropping a valve on the kl-01 cammed zes. Supposebly they are the exact same valve train? Im swapping out the retainers anyway once i swap the cams. The car i rarely drive anyway. I know it happens to most people that over rev their car alot. Ive had mine for 10 months, a few missed shifts and im still good (crosses fingers)

Posted: June 12th, 2007, 10:02 pm
by mx3autozam
kl31 cammed straight neck with curve neck swapped to it, miens droped ar about 4000rpm in 2nd gear. I have never overeved mine either.

the motor now has Ferrea valve springs, retainers and locks and 5angle valve grind. I love it

Posted: June 13th, 2007, 12:47 am
by hgallegos915
hey mxeautozam, for how long did you have your engine before this happened?

Posted: June 13th, 2007, 1:48 am
by fieromx3
mx3autozam wrote:I have never overeved mine either.
lmao i guess never is a few times hittin rev limiter a day?

Posted: June 13th, 2007, 6:48 am
by Nd4SpdSe
fieromx3 wrote:
mx3autozam wrote:I have never overeved mine either.
lmao i guess never is a few times hittin rev limiter a day?
haha, qtf ;)

Posted: June 13th, 2007, 7:58 am
by mx3autozam
7500 is where i shift at!

Posted: June 13th, 2007, 9:39 am
by Mooneggs
mx3autozam wrote:7500 is where i shift at!
why?

doesn't the powerband drop after 6600?