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xtreme velocity · Post by **xtreme velocity** » February 3rd, 2007, 6:00 am

my car is still running great..still not sold..but my not have to.. =] umm..i have alot to do to it..need sugestions...valve seals && head gasket needs to be replaced..umm i can figure out how to do it..but i wanna know if its worth my time?? and if not what is the cost and time to put a bp in it?? [[estimate]]

i live in Oklahoma, US..

a protege shouldnt b hard to find..but an estimate cost and time would be nice..unless its easier to replace those two items..

thanx guys..

forcedairram · Post by **forcedairram** » February 3rd, 2007, 7:37 am

Well as far as the head gasket not that hard, and not too time consuming, I would say a person with a basic understanding of automotives could install one with hand tools in on a saturday or so. As far as the valve seals unless you are fairly proficient in the topic I would suggest you take the head to a local automotive machine shop. I am not sure about in single cam engines but I know that you cant just find a tool at a local hardware store for removing and installing the valve spring components on the dual cam engines. Pricing for a basic valve spring install should be fairly reasonable, I would say somewhere in the neighborhood of 50-75 USD, but may vary by locations. I would also recommend that you go ahead and have a valvejob done while having the head tore down that far, and possibly having it surfaced to be sure that is isnt warped. I would estimate all that around maybe 150-200 USD, again just an estimate, but if you want an exact cost contact your local automotive machine shop.

xtreme velocity · Post by **xtreme velocity** » February 3rd, 2007, 1:31 pm

ok...so to do all this myself will it take about 3 days working alot?? or what..i know i can do it..just never worked on a import b4..i have done other work on domestic cars..but never done valve seals..so it would b easier to replace those 2 items rather that puttin a BP in it??

i want the most bang for my buck..

if it would b better to rplace the motor..i can deal with all the smoke comign out of it till i can buy a BP..

hharb · Post by **hharb** » February 4th, 2007, 1:40 am

well how goos is your engine? is it worth fixing, i mean fixing it might seem the easy way out, and it would be the best way out if the engine is still good, now if it's kinda dying anyways, get a bp and well after all you'll end up with a better engine in your car.

xtreme velocity · Post by **xtreme velocity** » February 4th, 2007, 1:58 am

thats what i was thinking..i took an estimate on this site of other ppl doing this swap n i think i can do it in a week..or less..but the motor is great..no problems besides ALOT of white smoke..n loss of power a lil..its only got 80,000 org. miles on it..n i bought it at 70,000..never been raced..but i did take the rpm's up to 5500 once cuz a smei bout killed me..lol...but its a great motor..just would liek alot more hp also..thats why i asked which would better...should i let it blow white smoke n save up for a bp?? or change the seals anyways???

hharb · Post by **hharb** » February 4th, 2007, 7:47 am

if you want a bp, trust me you will get one sooner or later, so my advice is burn the hell out of your engine and enjoy doing it, once it dies u will be so happy to put in your BP. i

xtreme velocity · Post by **xtreme velocity** » February 4th, 2007, 11:30 am

i want a bp..for thir car anyway..and sooner ot later a bpt...but this car will never out run my camaro though...=[ but it will be faster tahn most imports.. =] i jsut didnt kno if i should fix this one or not..

forcedairram · Post by **forcedairram** » February 4th, 2007, 2:32 pm

I know you didnt just say you car will never outrun a camaro!! I have a 92 mx with a bp and a 16g turbo off of an eagle talon, at 12 psi there wasnt a camaro around that could touch me! At 7 psi on a motor that ran a compression 50 psi below stock it pulled 198 hp and 211 ft lbs of torque, and on only about 30 minutes or so of tuning. Every part that went on the car was a used part off of another STOCK car. An mx with about 250-300 hp (which is easily obtained on a bp) will spank just about any domestic street car any day of the week.

xtreme velocity · Post by **xtreme velocity** » February 4th, 2007, 3:42 pm

yea well my ls1 z28 will out run my mx-3 by far..pushin 350hp est. pretty much stock..

forcedairram · Post by **forcedairram** » February 4th, 2007, 8:20 pm

well build an bp for your mx making about 200 hp and you will park the camaro. The power to weight ratio plays a HUGE role in the matter, not to mention the handling and such of the mx-3. It is a great car to drive and just about all of the dual cam engines will take a TON of abuse. I ran my stock bp right out of the junk yard to 22 psi on stock fuel system detonating the piss out of it and it never missed a beat. But anyways back to the topic I still think your most cost effective option would be to rebuild the current engine. None of the work is extremely difficult and the parts you need can be picked up fairly cheap. If you do decide to go with the bp its gonna take quite a bit of work and money. You will need the engine, tranny, mounts, axles, ecu, harness etc. Even then without rebuilding the motor you have no idea what you are really installing until after the fact. But if you are truely interested in the bp contact me in pribate, and I may be able to cut you a pretty good deal on a built one, to your specs of course. I have a couple of them sitting around (including one ported and polished head) that I can get rid of. My car now has a zetec(escort zx-2 engine) so they arent of any real use to me at the moment.

xtreme velocity · Post by **xtreme velocity** » February 4th, 2007, 8:54 pm

yea..i want to keep it an make it fast cuz of the ratio fact..i kno that...but what kind of deal u got?? i have no money right now..but this summer i will...and i also live in the US so shipping will b out the a--..

xtreme velocity · February 24th, 2007, 10:45 pm

camaro is gone... =[

im keeping the mx3 for awhile..

i guess this summer im going to save up and go ahead and replace the seals..i think im gonna have my funn w/ the 4cyl...then im going to put a bpt in it..

putting a bpt in my car..whats the hp on that?? my brother just got a Trans Am ls1..and its beast..but very heavy compaird to my car..if i worked on the bpt a lil bit..think i have a chance of showing him that a import has bigger balls that his red p.o.s.?? he wants me to buy the camaro back and sell the mx3..but for some reason i cant..even though its really slow right now..cuz its pretty much bone stock =[ but i still show up the hondas... ;] but i want to show him that my import can beat his T/A with just a lil hard work and love...any input is great..

also..if i were to replace my muffler..what size is the exhuast pipe?? i looked every where and cant find it..and i really dont want to guess..

thanx again..

hharb · Post by **hharb** » February 26th, 2007, 12:55 am

with a nice bp a nice turbo and some little tuning ur bpt would kick ur bros a-- anytime, it's really not a challange it involves some work but with all the material availble on this forum and the help of other members it should be relatively easy to achieve. goodluck

xtreme velocity · Post by **xtreme velocity** » February 26th, 2007, 8:02 pm

thanx...

umm whats the est. hp on that??

facko · Post by **facko** » February 28th, 2007, 12:31 am

it depends on which bp u get i think..im not sure but i think they are around 130ish...give or take a few hp.

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