J-Spec BP's

WingleBeast · Post by **WingleBeast** » October 18th, 2006, 2:06 pm

i look on ebay for used BP engines and all the JDM ones i find for sale say they are the 91-93 protege engines, however they all have the physical aspects of the 95+ OBDII BP. things like the one peice sliver valvecover/timing cover. are these the same as the 95+ ones in the USA, or are they just liek the 91-94 ones with just different head?

im really looking for the newer OBDII one to swap into my 94rs, i heard it wa san easier swap then the older one for my car

projectmx · Post by **projectmx** » October 19th, 2006, 9:59 am

i'd send a message to the seller and ask cause i'd bet those are really the 94+ bps that are the obdI and II hybrid or straight obdII which are what you probably want

WingleBeast · Post by **WingleBeast** » October 19th, 2006, 11:11 am

nah they were useless, told me all they knew is what cars they were form and to ask my mechanic

projectmx · Post by **projectmx** » October 19th, 2006, 11:14 am

what car and year are they from?

torpedan · Post by **torpedan** » October 19th, 2006, 12:53 pm

If a seller does not really know thier s--- or is not willing to open the page and tell you odds are you do not want to buy from them.

WingleBeast · Post by **WingleBeast** » October 19th, 2006, 2:30 pm

they are from j-spec 91-93 proteges. they are just the importer, they get all the engines from japan.

i really want to plop on in my 94rs, but i was told the OBDII system on 95+ proteges is easier

projectmx · Post by **projectmx** » October 19th, 2006, 2:53 pm

why are you only looking at the jdm ones? for the 2nd gen protege bp's there isnt any real difference between jdm and usdm models... just get one from a pro or a kia

WingleBeast · Post by **WingleBeast** » October 20th, 2006, 6:01 pm

easier said then done.

im not in an area that has wrecks available and j-spec ones are online for $400

torpedan · Post by **torpedan** » October 22nd, 2006, 3:54 pm

Either is easier said than done, there is shipping and the every present issue of how complete the long block is. Its very posisble that 400 does not include manifolds, brakets, sensor, and a slew of other things you need to make the motor function.

With my old Mx-3 it was easy to regress it to an OBDOI system, you need a compelte engine harness though. We purchased a whole front end clip from a protege lx for 750$ USD

WingleBeast · Post by **WingleBeast** » October 22nd, 2006, 11:25 pm

im not concerned about everything. a 400 engine shipped to my dads business will be less than $700. ive done my homework

and i would prefer OBDII because of the better sensor readings

torpedan · Post by **torpedan** » October 23rd, 2006, 9:17 am

The OBDII version of a BP that you will find is of a diffrent tune though. If I recall right its missing a few of the things that help give the BP in the 91-94 its broad power curve, such as VICS and a Hemlotz device. If your that worried about the sensor readings you can buy an OBD-I motor and make it run with the OBDII eletrical system.

Personally the newer the OBD the more resrtictive it is on what you can do to the motor before it throws a CEL and puts it into limp mode.

ariesdude · Post by **ariesdude** » October 23rd, 2006, 11:11 am

The OBDII BP does have VICS. It also has an extra crank angle sensor, boost sensor and an O2 sensor after cat (but this o2 sensor is not crucial).

MechaManZero · Post by **MechaManZero** » October 23rd, 2006, 1:11 pm

go to car-part.com and get yourself a usdm engine. It's a junk yard search site.