KL Engine Internal Upgrading (Please Sticky so I can edit)

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KL Engine Internal Upgrading (Please Sticky so I can edit)

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This will be an updateable list of the upgradable parts for the KL engines. This list is just started from the importperf website and I would LOVE help from all of you to make this as complete as possible!

Please make this a sticky as it will be updated alot and I don't think I can do that when it's in the faq section? If I can, thats fine, but I do want people to be able to post to it so they can tell of new findings.

KITS AND COMBOS ARE ON THE END!

Bearings
Toga HP
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... -ford.html
Main Bearings - $59
Rear Bearings - $55
Main and Rear Set - $109
Clevite
http://www.engineparts.com/
Can't find any info

Topline OEM
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... ford1.html
Main Bearings - $35
Rear Bearings - $29

Camshafts
Topline OEM
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... ford1.html
Camshaft - $199
Gude
http://www.gude.com/Cams/cam_mazda.html
No Price Listed


Clutches
(Prices of Clutches vary depending on what you want, heres the companies that I have found that sell clutches for the G series.
ACT
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
Clutch Masters
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
SPEC
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... s-all.html
Unorthodox Racing
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html

Connecting Rods
Pauter
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... -rods.html
Pauter Rod Set - $999
Topline OEM
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... -ford.html
Topline OEM Rods - $39 each
Pro Topline Millenia S Rods - $55 each

Crank Pulleys
Unorthodox Racing
http://importperformanceparts.net/imports/ur_us6.html
Ultra Series Crank Pulley - $192

Crankshaft
Topline OEM
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... azda2.html
Topline OEM Crankshaft Kit - $289

Engine Mount Member Bushings
SRD Performance
http://sites.rapidus.net/stpierlu/srd/transmission.htm
2 Front and 2 Rear - $57

Exhaust Gasket
Toga Performance
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
$59 Each

Flywheels
Fidanza
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... _ford.html
Lightweight Flywheel - $359
SPEC
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... -ford.html
$399
Unorthodox Racing
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... -ford.html
$459

Head Bolts
Adjusa Head Bolts
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
$77.99

Head Gaskets
Adjusa MLS Head Gasket
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
$49 each
Fel-Pro
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
PermaTorque MLS - $99 each

Headers
Pacesetter
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... -ford.html
Black Paint - $209 ArmorCoat - $349

Lifters
Topline OEM
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... ford1.html
30mm - $15 each
33mm - $19 each

Piston Rings
Ross Racing
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... rings.html
$22 each

Pistons
Topline OEM
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... ford1.html
$191 (with rings)
Wiseco
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... _ford.html
$629 (no coating or rings, can be bought to fit Millenia Rods)

Retainers
Ferrea Titanium
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... iners.html
$13.50 Each

Throttle Bodies
Corksport RCE
http://corksport.com/store/category/4v8 ... ngine.html
$255 + $125 core

Thrust Washers
Topline OEM
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... ford1.html
$15

Valves
Topline OEM
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... ford1.html
Intake/Exhaust - $9
Ferrea
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
Intake - $21.99 Exhaust - $22.99

Valve Seals
Toga
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
$79 set

Valve Springs
Ferrea
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... iners.html
$19.50 Each



PERFORMANCE KITS AND COMBOS



HP Performace Kit
http://importperformanceparts.net/imports/pek-ford.html
Complete Gasket Set
Hussey Copper Gasket
Ross/Wiseco Forged Pistons (either 9.1-1 or 10.1-1)
Ross Performance Rings
Performance Wrist Pins
Toga HP Main Bearings
Toga HP Rod Bearings
Thrust Washers
Timing Belt
Expansion Plugs

Standard Kit - $1159
With HP Millenia Rods - $1489
Available with Pauter Rods - N/A

Kit with Toga HV Oil Pump - $1319
With HP Millenia Rods - $1649
Available with Pauter Rods - N/A


Full Gasket Sets
Adjusa
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
- Head Gasket
- Viton Valve Stem Seals
- Valve Cover Gasket
- Int. & Exh. Gaskets
- ALL other required sealing gaskets, strips & plugs.
- Oil pan gasket (where applicable timing gasket, rear main seal)

$209

Toga HP
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/i ... mazda.html
MLS Head Gasket (for gas & turbo to 30 psi)
TOGA Performance Valve Seals (Teflon)
TOGA Crank Seals

$369


Connecting Rod and Piston Combo
IPP
http://importperformanceparts.net/impor ... _ford.html
Wiseco Pistons with Pro Topline Millenia S Rods - $929
Wiseco Pistons with Pauter Billet Rods - $1589[/b]

Head Packages
Gude
http://www.gude.com/Head/hp.htm#mazda
* Ported and Polished Cylinder Head
* High Compression Radius Cylinder
* Racing Valve Grind
* Ported Intake Manifold
* Ported Throttle Body
* Camshaft(s)
* ECU (ECU's may NOT be available in all head packages. Call for details)

Spacer Kit
Outlaw Engineering
http://www.outlawengineering.com/MazdaK ... Frame.html
Includes intake manifold spacers, throttle body spacer, gaskets, coolant bypass fitting, installation kit, detailed instructions and OUTLAW ENGINEERING decals!
$105
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you can add to the list:

bearings : clevite

clutches : clutchmaster, bully, exedy

rods : millenia S rods IF combined with the proper wiseco pistons

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Post by Tunes67 »

Here is ONE vendor from e-bay showing mazda engine gasket kits.. a heck of a lot cheaper than the one listed above.

They show the KLDE set for the Probe or MX-6.. but its compatible with the KLZE, K8, K8ZE, and KFZE. (Not 100% certain on the KFZE though)

Click Here

Now this is e-bay and what is there today may be gone tomorrow.. but this looks like a well established vendor doing LOTS of autopart business via E-bay. So they should have something most of the time I would think.

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Hey guys... first this is a great shopping list especially for some of us that are considering the swap so that they can do it all in one shot....

But what i wasn't sure about one thing when i went to some of those links especially most of them are from importperformanceparts.net

For most of the internal engine parts like camshafts, crankpullys, crankshafts, rods, pistons and valves for example... are mostly from the KLZE engine...

So are they after market..!? now some of the parts there are... but those specifically seem to be stripped out of the JDM KLZE engine may be brand new from suppliers overseas or barely used whatever the case may be... at the end if someone were to get a swap for the KLZE .... then those internals should already be in there....right ?!


Now things like shafts, flywheels all that i understand that are aftermarket.. which is great and worth getting from what i have seen on the forums...

Another thing I am not sure if anyone was able to get a lead on any fuel management system.... for example, feul rail, feul injectors, ... I did see somewhere i think corksport has feul pressure regulator... but other than that for feul management system, or a rev delimitter would be nice ..... anyone...! :)

One last thing on the side LooseChangeRacing u said to make it sticky donno if i missed that option or didn't see it but if u want to take this out later on just let me know in case u are not able to
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Post by LooseChangeRacing »

No it's ok, I made this sticky so that these sort of questions can be asked...and I am working to keep it as up to date as possible...anyway while i have 2 minutes on the comp heres your anwser.

The TOPLINE OEM stuff is OEM replacements but brand new...

Everything else should be aftermarket (stronger, better quality, forged, ect..)

Each page should have a bit of information as to what makes it stronger....

Remember though, always do the extra research on anything you seriously want to buy, this is so people can get a list of things and start estimating their budget.
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Post by mx3autozam »

Heres a thread from Probetalk that discusses all this in detail

http://forums.probetalk.com/showthread.php?t=1701035634


and so you know stay away from the Toga HV oil pumps
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Post by Spinkx79 »

In your Camshaft section you can add Colt Cams as they offer a few different grinds for the 2.5l.
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aren't there Carillo connecting rods for the KLZE?
and more Ferrea parts?
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what are u using for injectors on the klze?
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k, stupid question, but are you sure that the head gasket for a 2.5L KLZE work with the smaller K8?
I still cant find anywhere in the shop manual where it says there should be a 1in hole in the side of the block. (Blown K8) #6 rod thrown through block.
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Is this guy even still around ?
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Re: KL Engine Internal Upgrading (Please Sticky so I can edit)

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You can get cams from either interprep tunning or they also have a few different profiles to choose from on the colt cam site.
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Fordprobestore.co.uk mongspeed 68mm £65 (afterexchange)
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Fordprobestore.co.uk mongspeed 64mm £65 (afterexchange)
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so the exhaust and intake retainers are diff sizes on the ze..yea on teh ferrea site the retainers seem to only have one size? whats the deal with that?
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I'd assume with ferrea (like interprep) the idea is you replace all 24 exhaust and intake springs, then use 24 of their same size retainers and springs. I went with interprep, using the 12 stock exhaust retainers, 12 new kl03 intake retainers and 24 interprep valve springs. So you actually end up with 12 smaller (but stronger) intake valve spring/retainer combos.
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