TURBO OR SUPERCHARGER

[bulldog131775]

OK i HAVE BEEM SAVING MY MONEY FOR A WHILE NOW AND I BOUGHT I 93 MX3 1.8 V6 AND I AM LOOKING TO MAKE IT MORE POWERFULL. i CANT DECIDE ON WETHER TO SC IT OR DO A SINGLE OR TWIN TURBO FOR IT WHAT DO YOU OHTER MX3 OWNERS RECCOMENE. THOMAS KNIGHT TURBOS RECCOMENDED A SC BECAUSE OF LESS PROBLEMS WITH SUPERCHARGER AND ITS A LITTLE CHEAPER. ALL ANSWERS ARE WELCOME

[Mnemonic]

actually i think thomas knight recomended a SC because there turbo kits are crap or so everyone on this board who has gotten one has said, but truely if you have a 1.8 and you want to go more hp then an engine swap is your best bet and cheaper then doing a custom Turbo and prolly cheaper than doing a SC as well. You can swap the 1.8 to a 2.5 Klze (Jspec) engine for around 2k this engine is a direct swap with little modifications to be done and it runs at 200hp<p>hoped this helped some

[bulldog131775]

ok that sounds like a good idea to swap engines but will my b$m shifter work on a j spec engine and also what about my pmr air intake. also what kind of mods are there for the 2.5 and would a turbo or supercharger be reccomended for it.Finally were can i get a jspec 2.5 from can i get it from a mazda dealer

[Mnemonic]

your shifter will work cause you will still use the same tranny just upgrade your clutch (ACT stage 2 is a good choice) and yes your prm intake will work as well cause you can A use the 1.8 intake manifold ( you will loose a bit of hp doing this) or B pick up a manifold from a millinia which is the curved one and it will fit as well

[VizualXTC]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slow one:
ok that sounds like a good idea to swap engines but will my b$m shifter work on a j spec engine and also what about my pmr air intake. also what kind of mods are there for the 2.5 and would a turbo or supercharger be reccomended for it.Finally were can i get a jspec 2.5 from can i get it from a mazda dealer<hr></blockquote><p>you can mod the 2.5L just as you would mod any engine. Be advised the KLZE will most likely not produce the claimed 200HP because of our low octane gas, and the MX-3's ecu. You can get the high grade gas plus maybe an octane booster, you can also get an ecu from the KLZE engine to get the full 200HP. Also, you can put a turbo on the 2.5L if you want to. It has been estimated that the KLZE can handle around 8-10psi on the stock setup. There have been claims it may be ablr to withstand up to 14psi with better fuel managment. This is mostly uncharteted territory although many of us have plans to turbocharge the KLZE engine. <p>There is also a US equivelant of the KLZE engine found in the V6 version of the MX-6, 626, and the Ford Probe GT called the KL03. (People on tis board will call them KL, KL03, and occasionally a KLDE but they refer to the same engine) This engine only produces 160-170hp instead of the J-Spec's 200, but it is much easier to put forced induction on this engine because of the larger margin of error. You can also pick this engine up cheaper than the KLZE. I can personally get them for $200. There are people that are attempting to build a "home-made" KLZE by buying the KL03 and putting in the parts that differ between the engines. The parts include, pistons, rods, intake manifold, and I believe the heads are different as well. <p>Notes:
KL-03, KL, KLDE
160-170hp
9.1:1 CR
American 2.5L engine
found in MX-6, 626, and PGT
KL-ZE
190-200hp
10:1 CR
Japanese 2.5L engine
found in J-spec MX-6 and 626<p>places to buy KLZE
Sun Engines
StreetImports.com
Corksport.com<p>places to buy KL03
Local Junkyard
Mazda (not recomended)
Checker Auto (also not recomended)<p>If any of my information is incorrect or incomplete please fix. Thanks<p>I hope this helps man<p>[ April 09, 2003: Message edited by: VizualXTC ]</p>

[mx3man83]

Dang that is some good info.....

[Sonicxtacy02]

Ryan where are you getting DE's for 200 bucks. Sign me up for two!

[bulldog131775]

thanks for all the help on the engine info guys I appreciate it and i will hope to have my 2.5 liter probably jspec in soon i found a site called japan direct that is going to get me an engine from japan. when its all said in done i will post some pics for everyone and thanks again

[Casino]

i want to the 1.8 it would make things so much easier lol.
and if you did the swap, who cares about losing that intake im sure you can sell it or something

[VizualXTC]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sonicxtacy02:
Ryan where are you getting DE's for 200 bucks. Sign me up for two!<hr></blockquote><p>There is a junkyard by my house that will sell ANY engine for $200. They usually need a little work, like a minor rebuild, but ya can't go wrong for $200. The only problem is availability. If you're interested I can go down and see how many they have. I will be going down probably early next week, or next weekend to pick one up for myself. I will check to see if they have any others. Also, any turbo is $50 if you're interested in that

[monstar-mx-3]

I just posted a link under Images of KLZE with a Eaton supercharger on it. DAM!!! Its nice

[ProtegeSTS]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by VizualXTC:
<p>There is a junkyard by my house that will sell ANY engine for $200. They usually need a little work, like a minor rebuild, but ya can't go wrong for $200. The only problem is availability. If you're interested I can go down and see how many they have. I will be going down probably early next week, or next weekend to pick one up for myself. I will check to see if they have any others. Also, any turbo is $50 if you're interested in that <hr></blockquote><p>a "minor" rebuild?

[Sonicxtacy02]

i'd definitely be interested, let me know. At 200 bucks how could you lose.

[Mnemonic]

D*mn you ryan you should of told me, i paid 350 for mine i could of gotten a turbo and engine for that price! he he he sigh

[VizualXTC]

I told you a long time ago man. Remember, you said your friend decided to get an MX-3 because I could get him an engine so cheap.<p>Jesse, I meant a monor rebuild as in the engine is not running. Could be anything from a blown gasket to a burned piston. Obviously I'd find out what's wrong before I bought it.<p>Shaun, I should be going out there either this weekend or early next week, so I will check to see how many engines they have. Also, let me know if you want a turbo, and what kind.