Can a supercharged KLZE handle a small shot of nitrus?

Sean Mandell · Post by **Sean Mandell** » September 30th, 2002, 12:02 pm

I was planning on supercharging the klze for sure but was thinking that if 10 seconds would be out of the question with nitrus? Of corse I will be using stand Alone and upgraded fuel system but I was more worried about the internals. can stock internals handle 7psi with say a 75 shot of juice?

[ October 03, 2002: Message edited by: Custommx3 ]

BigProbe · Post by **BigProbe** » September 30th, 2002, 12:46 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by nvrsrndr: can stock internals handle 7psi with say a 75 shot of juice?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No. It'd have a rough time handling 7psi...[ October 03, 2002: Message edited by: Custommx3 ]

VizualXTC · Post by **VizualXTC** » September 30th, 2002, 5:33 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by nvrsrndr: I was planning on supercharging the klze for sure but was thinking that if 10 seconds would be out of the question with nitrus? Of corse I will be using stand Alone and upgraded fuel system but I was more worried about the internals. can stock internals handle 7psi with say a 75 shot of juice?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>there is no need for N20 if you're running a supercharger. The reason some use it with a turbo is to minimize lag. With 7 psi you should experience minimal if any lag. If you did put a 75 shot on the SC/KLZE you would blow your engine instantly. Although if you upgraded internals (custom pistons, rods, shot peined crank) your engine could handle upwards of 500+BHP. I believe Dave Lazier was running 11.1 sec. with his TT BPT with ~480WHP. (aprox. 565BHP @ 15% drivetrain loss)[ October 03, 2002: Message edited by: Custommx3 ]

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » September 30th, 2002, 6:44 pm

nitrous works for ANY engine,and will work better in FI situations due to the intercooling effect. Nobody can be sure, but id say it could hold it if its tuned very well, and you have the fuel. I wouldnt trust the axles though.

VizualXTC · Post by **VizualXTC** » October 1st, 2002, 2:09 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS: nitrous works for ANY engine,and will work better in FI situations due to the intercooling effect. Nobody can be sure, but id say it could hold it if its tuned very well, and you have the fuel. I wouldnt trust the axles though.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why tho? it's a supercharger. if you want the extra power, change the pulley to a higher boost level.

BigProbe · Post by **BigProbe** » October 1st, 2002, 2:11 am

Just so he can say:"Y0! I gotz NAWS AND a SizzooperChargah!" [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]He WONT have the fuel figured out enough to do both...he wont have the rod strength...nor the timing control...

Sean Mandell · Post by **Sean Mandell** » October 1st, 2002, 11:40 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BigProbe: Just so he can say:"Y0! I gotz NAWS AND a SizzooperChargah!"

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » October 1st, 2002, 11:53 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BigProbe: Just so he can say:"Y0! I gotz NAWS AND a SizzooperChargah!" [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]He WONT have the fuel figured out enough to do both...he wont have the rod strength...nor the timing control...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Darin, he said he'd have a stand alone and the upgraded fuel system to hold it. Where do you get your info about the rod strength? Nobody with a KL or ZE has done it "right" with those 2 important things yet, so you have ZERO basis for any conclusions.I agree that you'll be pushing the envelope, but i think with near perfect tuning, its realistic. Ive seen a few honda boys running some big numbers on stock internals with GOOD tuning. Thats the key. Ignition timing says where the force goes...

BigProbe · Post by **BigProbe** » October 1st, 2002, 12:05 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS: Darin, he said he'd have a stand alone and the upgraded fuel system to hold it. Where do you get your info about the rod strength? Nobody with a KL or ZE has done it "right" with those 2 important things yet, so you have ZERO basis for any conclusions.I agree that you'll be pushing the envelope, but i think with near perfect tuning, its realistic. Ive seen a few honda boys running some big numbers on stock internals with GOOD tuning. Thats the key. Ignition timing says where the force goes...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>My info on Rod Strength? Have you seen a KLD rod? Have you seen a KLZE rod?

o re: Being original and running SC + N2O...It's hard enough to get a ZE running correctly ANYWAY...adding Forced Induction makes it even MORE dificult...throw N2O on top of that? Geesh. I did come across like an a--, and I apologize; however I know the futility that IS high-power KL motors. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]Best of luck...at best, you'll blow the motor in 6 months...at worst? 6 days.

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » October 1st, 2002, 1:48 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BigProbe: My info on Rod Strength? Have you seen a KLD rod? Have you seen a KLZE rod?

o re: Being original and running SC + N2O...It's hard enough to get a ZE running correctly ANYWAY...adding Forced Induction makes it even MORE dificult...throw N2O on top of that? Geesh. I did come across like an a--, and I apologize; however I know the futility that IS high-power KL motors. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]Best of luck...at best, you'll blow the motor in 6 months...at worst? 6 days.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>i've held a K8 rod though. I still think that with tuning, it'll be fine.

Sean Mandell · Post by **Sean Mandell** » October 1st, 2002, 2:11 pm

o re: Being original and running SC + N2O..see a couple of years ago having a klze in your mx-3 was the newest performance mod. now there are tons of people out there tuning the klze. the mx-3 is evolving and thanks to everyone that tries and spend $$$$ to the R&D of the ultimate mx-3. We have conquered the klze swap now we could either be satisfied or want more. If we limit ourselves then there would be no excuse for living. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]

BigProbe · Post by **BigProbe** » October 1st, 2002, 2:30 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by nvrsrndr: If we limit ourselves then there would be no excuse for living.

My point is...if you want original, swap in a Rotary. Just because something is original, doesnt mean its smart.

Sean Mandell · Post by **Sean Mandell** » October 1st, 2002, 7:52 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by BigProbe: [QBMy point is...if you want original, swap in a Rotary. Just because something is original, doesnt mean its smart.[/QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I already have an 1979 rx-7 which I am restoring slowly.

I don't think that suggestion is more logical than mine. I also know a very well known tuner for japanese engines and he has been tuning j-spec cars for 20 years. He can get 230 whp from a b16 naturally aspired. I think that u might be biased cause u might have had problems tuning ur car and tuning that might be hard for u is easy for someone with more knowledge. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]

Golliwog · Post by **Golliwog** » October 1st, 2002, 10:08 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>My point is...if you want original, swap in a Rotary. Just because something is original, doesnt mean its smart.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I wish I were rich so I could do it!

VizualXTC · Post by **VizualXTC** » October 2nd, 2002, 12:36 am

This is like tuning a honda. Doable....buy why.

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