Intercooled Turbo

[VizualXTC]

Do you HAVE to put an intercooler with your turbo? If so, what would happen if you didn't. If not, what are the bennefits of having one?

[mitmaks]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VizualXTC:<BR><STRONG>Do you HAVE to put an intercooler with your turbo? If so, what would happen if you didn't. If not, what are the bennefits of having one?</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>hey dude think ! intercooler....internal cooler for what? turbo? ya u got it! man...u cant run turbo without it cause what it does ? ...cooler yes it cools turbo down..

[David Coleman]

Moved to the Forced Induction Forum

[boostedmx]

it is possible to run a turbo without an intercooler, in fact some turbocharged cars from the factory were designed that way. also some low boost turbo kits are made not to come with one. The down-fall to not having one is that you cant run as much boost because of the hotter air charge that is more likely to cause detonation. <BR> there are some alternatives including water injection and nitrous oxide(if your engine can handle it) wich can lower air charge temps even more.

[jdag112]

Mitmaks- you should not be so quick to reply with n rude answer, especially when its WRONG! In fact most people who are turbo charging their cars without large amounts of internal work done to their engine do so with a forced air system that does not include an intercooler.

[RanMan]

MitMaks, sorry man, but you ARE wrong! The Intercooler does not cool down the turbo, it cools down the air going into the engine, which equals more power (from more dense air...the same reason most cars run better when the air is cold outside). The intercooler might help to reduce the temperature of the turbo, but that is NOT the reason for using them.

[Esper]

uhhhhh...the intercooler cools the air coming from the turbo, not the turbo itself. i'd highly suggest it, but its not needed. just don't blow your engine up come summertime!

[codene]

bad side of ICs are that you can lose a few psi through the IC. i guess it doesnt matter if you have a boost controller cuz then you could just bump it up. anywayz just my .02

[Bri94GS]

summer time? winter time? Your engine still stays about the same temp no matter the weather. If you're going to run a turbo, get an intercooler. If it's a big turbo, get a front mount

[Esper]

ever driven a turbocharged car in the heat of summer compared to deep winter? it goes faster in the cold air. you're right that engines have a pretty specific operating temperature, but a cold air charge to the intake, IC, and radiator help it run more effectively. cold air=more dense (if i remember AP physics correctly). in the summer in utah (or florida!)the engine is already getting a warm intake charge, which is compounded by the time the exhaust gasses run through the turbo. an intercooler helps cool it down again, keeping another HP-robbing hot charge of air from entering the engine.<p>[ November 04, 2001: Message edited by: Esper ]

[Bri94GS]

Yea i own a turbocharged car...it gets more cold air in the winter, but the engine temp still stays about the same..just the air going in is a lot colder

[VizualXTC]

Thanks all you guys for your input. I am planning on getting a KL_ZE or KL_03 this summer and probably dual turbo setup with a front mount intercooler. I'm really new into this whole thing, so I have alot of seemingly stupid questions. Does anyone know any site's, or magazines that would help me in my quest for knowledge? (please don't send me to MX-3 specific sites, or "import tuner" becuz they don't tell me HOW, and WHY things work., that is what I want to know. Thank you for all your help guys, especially those of you that weren't a-- holes.

[Esper]

some excellent things to read are Corky Bell's "Maximum Boost," considered by many to be the bible for turbocharging. You should also try to get back issues (or check their website) of Sport Compact Car, they ran a series on turbocharging this past year that's pretty helpful. SCC is the best magazine resource I've found, just keep in mind what companies are paying them to use their stuff.

[mitmaks]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jdag112:<BR><STRONG>Mitmaks- you should not be so quick to reply with n rude answer, especially when its WRONG! In fact most people who are turbo charging their cars without large amounts of internal work done to their engine do so with a forced air system that does not include an intercooler.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>well that aint turbo..aint real thing...gotta have one...

[black92gs]

NO YOU DONT HAVE TO HAVE ONE!<BR>the turbo is designed to run hot thats why turbo cars will emit a mall amount of smoke before at operating temp because the seals in side a turbo for the oil are designed to only touch the turbo shaft at operating temperature the intercooler is designed to cool air coming form the turbo to the intake manifold it is for horsepower increase not for turbo maintenance if you want your turbo to run cooler ceramic coat it and run an oil cooler intercooler is optioonal another thing to look at is water injecteion more expensive but it takes up less room and is more efficient and it doesnt collect bugs [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img] [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]