What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
Hi guys, I am from Holland and I am about to do a Kl-ZE swap, but the law here is very tight. Once I have made the swap I would have to pay for all sorts of tests to get my new paperwork due to the new engine number. Over 70HP power gain means, new drive test, brake test, sound test, bla, bla, bla and $$$$$$$$
So my question to you experts is:
can I use the cams from the Kl-ze on the K8 or can I use the complete Ze heads on the K8.
I am looking for some way of gaining some HP without changing engine number. and guys it dont have to be 70Hp gain, give me 30 or 40 and I am happy.
Thanks to everyone whos supports lost souls like me.......
So my question to you experts is:
can I use the cams from the Kl-ze on the K8 or can I use the complete Ze heads on the K8.
I am looking for some way of gaining some HP without changing engine number. and guys it dont have to be 70Hp gain, give me 30 or 40 and I am happy.
Thanks to everyone whos supports lost souls like me.......
You must be fast....cause I was hauling a-- when I passed you!!
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Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
Cams I believe only..
Heads will not work. Intake mani has square runners, and yours has round, they would have to be port matched. Thats about all I can think of.
Heads will not work. Intake mani has square runners, and yours has round, they would have to be port matched. Thats about all I can think of.
Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
Would ZE cams in a K8 help performance wise? I would think so but what about hp/tq #'s?? I am about to change my head gaskets so i figure when my valve cover is off i might swap some ZE cams....
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Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
in theory they do. i dont think anyone has done it. try it and let us know how it goes.Originally posted by atx_mx3:
Would ZE cams in a K8 help performance wise? I would think so but what about hp/tq #'s?? I am about to change my head gaskets so i figure when my valve cover is off i might swap some ZE cams....
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All K series cams are interchangeable except the KJ (Supercharged 2.3l)... From what I understand.
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Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
Can you add a supercharger without having to retest your car?
Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
Nope, if you fit a turbo you must retest and I think a Supercharger would fall under that category.
I had a feeling the heads would not fit due to the bigger bore on the cylinders.
Now wondering what gains there would be from using the ZE cams and ported and polished ZE intake....anyone fitted a Ze intake on a K8?
I had a feeling the heads would not fit due to the bigger bore on the cylinders.
Now wondering what gains there would be from using the ZE cams and ported and polished ZE intake....anyone fitted a Ze intake on a K8?
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Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
If i could find a set of affordable ZE cams i prolly would do the swap and dyno test to see if there is an increase in HP or TQ.
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Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
Well, you could consider this possibility instead of a KLZE:Originally posted by Mikee:
I am looking for some way of gaining some HP without changing engine number. and guys it dont have to be 70Hp gain, give me 30 or 40 and I am happy.
Get a KFZE and its ECU. That will give you the 30 to 40 hp you're looking for. Then bore your K8 block to take the KF pistons (from 65 to 68 mm) and swap everything over. I think the stroke is the same so you could keep the crankshaft and conrods.
You keep the K8 engine number
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I don't know if you CAN bore the K8 out that much, though. Anyone ?
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Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
Just go ahead and do a KL-ZE swap and then Stamp the old Engine Number onto the KL-ZE block. I don#t think anybody will check this,
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Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
If they look at the number, its because they are suspicious. If they are suspicious, they can tell a changed number, and they can read the original which was ground off.
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Re: What can be used from the KL-Ze on the K8
The KFZE cams are the most aggresive of any K series engine, which means the most gains.