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took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 11th, 2003, 6:01 pm
by novadoc
well
results are in
my car failed<p>here are the results
car was tested hot, KLZE, ze computer, ms8 manifold, no EGR<p> ASM2525 test Curb Idle
limit reading limit reading
HC ppm 79 125 200 311
CO% 0.44 0.66 1.00 0.08
NO ppm 605 2074<p> :mad: <p>NOx would definately be within limits if the egr was hooked up
or if the engine was stone cold<p>if anyone has any thoughts and or recommendations let me know
kinda pisses me off, gotta drive around on 10 day permits until i can get it to pass :mad:<p>[ April 11, 2003: Message edited by: NoVa ]</p>

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 11th, 2003, 6:10 pm
by 992mmx3
I don't really understand the diagram you gave, did you fail on the hydrocarbons? If so, my friend bought an engine flush type product made by redline and his hydro-carbon level went down by 600 points. He also bought new spark plugs, wires, cap and rotor, which helped another 250 hc points or so.

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 11th, 2003, 6:14 pm
by novadoc
what the hell
it looked fine when i typed it out<p>--------ASM2525 test--------Curb Idle
-----------limit---reading---limit reading
HC ppm---79-------125------200----311
CO%------0.44-----0.66-----1.00---0.08
NO ppm---605------2074<p>[ April 11, 2003: Message edited by: NoVa ]</p>

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 11th, 2003, 7:12 pm
by Buff1110
get an fpr and lean out ur motor.

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 11th, 2003, 7:15 pm
by 992mmx3
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by NoVa:
what the hell
it looked fine when i typed it out<p>--------ASM2525 test--------Curb Idle
-----------limit---reading---limit reading
HC ppm---79-------125------200----311
CO%------0.44-----0.66-----1.00---0.08
NO ppm---605------2074<p>[ April 11, 2003: Message edited by: NoVa ]
<hr></blockquote>
Uuuuh, I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I just didn't understand it (its a me fault if ya get my drift), take it easy.<p> :roll:

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 11th, 2003, 7:22 pm
by novadoc
ah<p>sorry, that wasnt suppose to sound like i thought you were a jerk heh<p>its just i typed it out and then it squished all together so no one would understand it<p>
i failed everything but the CO% at curb idle<p>[ April 11, 2003: Message edited by: NoVa ]</p>

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 11th, 2003, 8:25 pm
by curtklze
well you could tell the emissions place that the car is a hot rod, they have a different set of specs for cars with engine swaps.<p>It looks like some thing is wrong with the car, a proper running engine with a good cat should have H.C. of like 30 PPM and the CO should be like .15% so I would suspect a missfire or defective converter.<p>some things to try would be, de-carbon the combustion chambers, check to make sure the converter is good, change the thermostat.<p>make sure you run sunoco 94 as well.<p>
How hot was the converter? did you beat the hell out of the car then drive it straight on to the dyno or did it cool down in the parking lot for a while.<p>
also check for vaccume leaks, they could also cause those readings, maybe a small leak at the intake manifold gasket on only one cylinder, I have seen this cause readings like that befor.<p>maybe a small leak at one of the vaccume chambers for the VIRS.<p>good luck

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 11th, 2003, 9:58 pm
by johnnyb
yeah run 94 octane gas go get some of that guaranteed to pass stuff.. i didnt put it in and i passed but just barely then i had a friend run my car again a few days later with it dunno helped me out

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 12th, 2003, 12:25 am
by killerpickle
Which vaf are you using? The stock je50?

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 12th, 2003, 4:40 am
by novadoc
yea the stock VAF<p>the cat is brand new, hasnt even been broken in yet, so that could be the cause of some of it
and the car was tested at operating temp
didnt drive the **** out of it<p>it was allowed about 10 minutes of cool down before it hit the dyno<p>before i went for the e-test i had the basic stuff done
plugs/oil change<p>94 octane<p>im probobly gonna get my hands on a 1.8 computer
ill hook up the egr and see what happens

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 12th, 2003, 10:10 am
by Hilltopper58
Yeash e-test sure dont sound like much fun...They dont have them out here in alberta yet WOHOO.

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 12th, 2003, 11:27 am
by johnnyb
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Hilltopper58:
Yeash e-test sure dont sound like much fun...They dont have them out here in alberta yet WOHOO.<hr></blockquote><p>
YET is the keyword....<p>the feds are gonna force everyone to have emission tests pretty soon as part of the kyoto thing

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 12th, 2003, 3:07 pm
by novadoc
any of you guys in ontario with ze's have them tested as a hotrod?<p>
i was told by the emissions test place that i needed to take the recipts for the swap to the ministry and have the information changed<p>i cant have my insruance company find out about the swap, otherwise i might as well grab my ankles so they can shove a huge policy yup my ***

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 12th, 2003, 3:12 pm
by timpronk
I passed mine about a week ago<p>my results:<p>40km/h
Limit Reading
HC ppm - 79 - 16
CO%- 0.44 - 0.02
NO ppm- 0605 - 595 (close)<p>curb idle
Limit Reading
HC ppm - 200 - 7
CO%- 1 - 0.00
NO ppm- 0605 - 595 (close)<p>my setup was
klze, 1.8 ecu, 2.5 vaf, cranecams ignition & coil
ze distributor, gas=sunoco 94, air filter, crankcase breather, north american intake manifold.<p>sorry if it shows funny<p>Tim

Re: took the car for an e-test today

Posted: April 12th, 2003, 3:55 pm
by novadoc
looks like im gonna have to do some shopping<p>on my rear exhaust manifold where the egr taps into, the thread is different<p>i have aftermarket mx6 headers<p>if i could get the egr line off a n/a mx6 would i beable to adapt it to work?<p>or am i pretty much SOL