Hey Ryan,
All I was trying to say is that the US are a completely divided bunch. Once the war starts are you going to cage all middle eastern people? Canada had a civil war at it's confederation. Upper Canada vs. Lower Canada, known today as Quebec and Ontario, respectively. Today, Quebec lisence plates have a sig, if you will, that says je me souvien, which means 'I remember', or better put they still haven't forgotten that war, and they even tried to separate from the rest of Canada 130 years after this war. Case and point with the Japanese, someone said that they have no problem with the US, as their markets flourish at the hands of US businesses going off shore. Come on! You think that they've forgotten? And word on "da street", from talking to my relatives that do live in the US, is that they are "no uncle Tom, going to fight uncle Sam's war".
You can't tell me that people from the middle east that reside in the US today are not upset with the hastiness to which the US is going to war. Also, you can't tell me that hatred by the ignorant, toward muslims is not growing amongst us all. I repeat 'by the ignorant'.
Tell me this, are there any muslims in the US army?
Anyhow, my point is that the US are a very divided group, as they have upset entire nations and now religious groups all over the world. <p>Ryan, it looks like you against everyone here even Battsoi, who I think has a better handle than you on what is going on. Yet you put his situation of living very close to where this war is taking place down and figure that your place of residence albeit near a US army base is more vulnerable. The US is planning to attak his area. Nobody said that they were going to attak your army base. Hence the reason why a lot of us are tired of what you have to say.
You have included Toronto as a main target for Al-Qaida. I never read or heard about this.
Ryan, thank you for wanting to put your life on the line for the likes of me, johnny b, kurtklze, and many others. I think what we're saying is that we feel secure in our own minds and hearts that we haven't pissed anybody off, so we're safe. I may be mistaken, but Canada is known for its peace keeping missions, not aggression.
As I'm a lover, not a fighter and can face death with a healthy conscience (I'm an assistant priest). You ask where I stand when Canada goes to war. I'll stand for peace. We have people to do that for us, and if I'm recruited to go to war, I'm not going. I feel that this is not my war. This is why I say don't trouble trouble until trouble troubles you. <p>one<hr></blockquote><p>Wow, go to Vegas for a few days and you have a weeks worth of reading. Well, since I have been in Vegas (a.k.a. No Sleep) and it's 3:15am I am just going to respond to this one post only because it was directed toward me. <p>You say that they are going to attack Battosai's area? I don't believe that Saddam or his regime resides in Sabadell Spain. I don't believe there has ever been talk about bombing Spain. What I do know is that we have F-16's flying a 24 hour watch over our air base. I wonder why they'd do that to an unlikely target. Hill Air Force Base has been listed as a target for biological warfare. You can deny and excuse anything you want, but the fact remains I am in MUCH more danger than Battosai is. I would even go as far as to say YOU are in mre danger than I. And if you took 2 seconds to actually READ my posts you will see I never listed Toronto as a target. I only expressed the proximity of Toronto to NYC which is the #1 target for Al-Queda. If they drop an anthrax, small-pox, or nuclear bomb on NYC, I assure you, that people in Toronto will feel the aftermath. When you're friends and family are dying slowly of diseases you have never heard of, remember that you are against getting rid of the person that did it. Furthermore, Canada will NEVER go to war with Iraq, just like Great Brittain and France will never go to war with Iraq. They may send troops to support us, but will never be an active participant. Canada WILL back the US, it's just a metter of time before they realize what's been put in front of them for the past few months. I heard that the US is now at war with Iraq. I havn't heard anything about it since Sunday so I will have to watch the news, and do a little research before I can comment on other posts. You talk about our ignorance and our unwillingness to understand. We have the proof. We're GOING to kill Saddam. Now we are at war, it is legal to send a guy and put a bullet where his mouth would be. If I had training I would volunteer for the job myself. Paint my skin yellow, wrap a turban around my head, and throw a little "apu" at them, then POW!....Just kidding. But seriously, I support what's going on 100% and like Barry stated. All you know is what your country wants you to know. All we know is what OUR country wants us to know. BUT I guarentee that when it comes down to cold hard facts, George W knows more than 99.9% of the US, Canada, and possibly the world. If he didn't know what he was doing, he wouldn't do it. You all may think that he's doing this for glory, but the Bush Administration is just that, and administration. It's not just Bush calling the shots. He has an awesome administration, one that I will stand by. <p>I also fail to see any proof of your previous allegations. I must admit I havn't read the whole thing so you may have said something.<p>After a bit of rest and a lot of research I will return and throw another 2 cents into the piggy bank. Right now I am going to bed.
I appologize for any incoherent garbble I may have made. It is 3:30 now and I am running on NO sleep. I also appologize if I have offended anyone, but this is a debate, and feelings will be tested.
<p>Ryan, my proof is in history. However, I have been told to 'stand down', as the history that I presented was too harsh for this UBB. Therefore, you're right . . . I have nothing. Please don't bring it up again. Thank you. <p>one
