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Jutzi420 wrote:Naw, my van is 9005/9006.

I was kinda wondering about how legal it'd be. Do cars with factory HIDs and separate highs leave the HIDs on with the High beam?

It's legal if it's 2 bulbs, I know the 2005+ ford escapes turn on both low and highs when highs are turned on, but they're just reflector-based.

Ya, I know some cars that it stays on stock - like 9005 Civics, so it should be legal for us! It would be SUPER bright w/ HIDs + high beams haha...now if you got HID high beams too, you can probably be seen from space

Jutzi420 wrote:Naw, my van is 9005/9006.

I was kinda wondering about how legal it'd be. Do cars with factory HIDs and separate highs leave the HIDs on with the High beam?

The bulk of factory HID's are projector based, and they physically move the cutoff shield with a solenoid to let more light through and produce a high beam. All the reflector based factory HID systems I've seen physically move some part of the reflector to change the beam pattern to get a high beam. So instead of your high beam switching on a different bulb, or filament, it's moving a cut off shield or housing to produce a highbeam pattern from the same bulb.

I'll have to check my mom's 6. I was pretty sure it had a separate high.

andrewlcraft wrote:

Jutzi420 wrote:Naw, my van is 9005/9006.

I was kinda wondering about how legal it'd be. Do cars with factory HIDs and separate highs leave the HIDs on with the High beam?

The bulk of factory HID's are projector based, and they physically move the cutoff shield with a solenoid to let more light through and produce a high beam. All the reflector based factory HID systems I've seen physically move some part of the reflector to change the beam pattern to get a high beam. So instead of your high beam switching on a different bulb, or filament, it's moving a cut off shield or housing to produce a highbeam pattern from the same bulb.

this is what i was referring to, when i was talking about bi-xenons... that's right way to go about it -- there's only one bulb for high and low.

i didn't read as carefully as i should have in what onlytrueromeo was asking how to do.

I made up a wire harness for my HIDs when I installed 'em with a couple relays. One so I could send the ballasts power through some 14ga right from the battery, and one so the Lows would stay on with the Highs. I was gonna scan my diagram for it and post it here yesterday but I left it at work

I'll hook it up tommorow when I get a chance.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/29622478@N03/3342431190/

The Relay on the Right is switched by the original low beam wiring and turns on the HIDs. The relay on the left keeps the lows HIDs on when you switch on the highs.

It doesn't show the ballasts, but that should be easy to figure out I just hooked all this into my passenger side headlight. and for the driver side I cut off the wires for the lows on the headlight side, they weren't doing anything but I left enough to solder a lead back on later if I wanted to.

You can throw this diagram into your first post if you want fowljesse, this thread might be faq-worthy soon, so it might be better off at the top.

You could also get a new harness then just install a diode so that the relay stays on. I did that today and it works GREAT!!!

BuGS wrote:You could also get a new harness then just install a diode so that the relay stays on. I did that today and it works GREAT!!!

I know s----all about diodes. How's that work?

Honestly, highbeams look like a candlelight compared to the HID.
Is anyone converting the highbeams as well?

SuperK wrote:Honestly, highbeams look like a candlelight compared to the HID.
Is anyone converting the highbeams as well?

The bad part about a seperate HID bulb as your highbeam is the slow warm up time, and it's hard on the bulbs to be turned on and off a lot. I'd look into finding some really good halogen bulbs for the highbeams. What kind of bulb is the highbeam on those?

A diode is nothing more than an electrical check valve. Electricity flows one way, but not the other.

SuperK wrote:Honestly, highbeams look like a candlelight compared to the HID.
Is anyone converting the highbeams as well?

I thought the same thing, but running the highs along with the HIDs works real well. I'm thinking of upgrading the H1s that came with the lights to a silverstar or something similar, just to get them to blend better.

wytbishop wrote:A diode is nothing more than an electrical check valve. Electricity flows one way, but not the other.

So did you just splice a diode in between the high and low beam wires with the "flow" towards the low beams?

BuGS wrote:You could also get a new harness then just install a diode so that the relay stays on. I did that today and it works GREAT!!!

So you used something like a 12v 15A diode, spliced it in before the relays with the diode flowing towards the low beams?

Any problems with the HID going out switching when you switch the highs on?

for some reason i got everyhting(HID) ready for my projectors, problem is gettin them into the projector. my hids are very slim(6000k) but i cant get them in with all that metal brackets there....help....cant handle the stock lamp color....

I installed my projectors this weekend and I have a couple of issues.

1. the quality of the 9004 male connector is pretty poor I think. I had a hard time aligning the pins with my harness connector. Also the wires are loose and the lights don't stay on. If I wiggle the wires in the headlight side of the connector the lights go on and off.

2. the headlight relay goes crazy occasionally when the lights are turned off. I can hear it flickering a thousand times a minute. Sometimes it only does so for a second, sometimes it won't stop. It always stops if I have the headlight switch on or if I hit the high beams. I think this may be connected to the DRL system. Have any other Canadians had a problem like this? Have any of you deleted the DRL system? I might try that but I'm not exactly sure what to remove.

Any help would be appreciated.