OUTLAW SPACERS

DavidOS · Post by **DavidOS** » March 30th, 2005, 4:57 pm

babyblueMX3 wrote:
Gro Harlem wrote:yes, i would love to see a dyno sheet that you recorded of a Probe, MX3 or MX6 that isn't made in Microsoft Excel or some other generic software program. The ones on your site aren't real dyno sheets & I've yet to see any ProbeTalk guys show dyno sheets with 8hp and 12 torque gains using your product.

I've read negative comments on PT as well, more like mixed reviews overall.

The bolt that broke was one of those brass-colored intake manifold ones. I was not putting a lot of torque on it either, I was trying to remove it and the head snapped off.

And it is common knowledge that lengthening or shortening the manifold runners will shift the powerband curves.

As for the manifold rubbing...the KLZE manifold barely clears the hood to begin with, but with these spacers the problem increases. The stock K8 manifold sits way lower and would clear fine w/these spacers, but not a Eunos 800 manifold

And FYI: on your site you list the curved-neck style as "MS8"....the MS8 is the straight-neck manifold. The curved neck manifold came on the Eunos 800 (aka jdm/edm millenia).

HEre is a pic of an MS8:

straight neck manifold
this is not an ms8 Gro..Ms8 has a curve neck manifold just like a millenia.confirmed by some guys overseas

i concur with baby blue, from the 4 swaps done in my life thats what i know its as as well. Furthermore an engine that runs cooler does run better.

babyblueMX3 · Post by **babyblueMX3** » March 30th, 2005, 5:44 pm

well I agree that the picture is an MS8..jsut not the right engine in it..
anyways..why would the millenia j-spec version would have a different intake manifold..doesn't make sense..

gro on the last link provided under we both thought it was a straight neck..we were corrected...remember ?

couple of links too :
http://www.mx-3.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.ph ... ms8+intake
http://www.mx-3.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.ph ... ms8+intake
http://www.mx-3.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.ph ... ms8+intake

anyways sorry for the off topic

Dali · Post by **Dali** » March 31st, 2005, 3:55 am

i just ordered a set, need new gaskets anyways whick are like 60 bucks here so i guess i will try these out, saved some money anyways. guess i will find out in another month when the car gets put back together how well these work.

Dali · Post by **Dali** » April 2nd, 2005, 5:00 pm

so how many sets have been ordered so far?

Teal_93 · Post by **Teal_93** » April 2nd, 2005, 6:26 pm

They must have enough to fill the group buy as I recieved an e-mail saying that they were being shipped out.

ovendenk · Post by **ovendenk** » April 2nd, 2005, 7:24 pm

that mean it's done???!!!

i should really stop procrastinating. but wait, wasn't it on until the end of april?

jschrauwen · Post by **jschrauwen** » April 2nd, 2005, 8:20 pm

Teal_93 wrote:They must have enough to fill the group buy as I recieved an e-mail saying that they were being shipped out.

I recieved no such email after purchasing mine or any time there after. Don't tell me this is another f**ked up cross border order again.

Dali · Post by **Dali** » April 2nd, 2005, 9:41 pm

i have not received a email either. hope it wont be a problem coming to canada, got ripped pretty bad from jegs for ordering some phantom grip springs, springs were 30 bucks and they charged me 40 some for shipping and handling which i was not told about until i received them, going to have 100 dept on my credit card for 4 little springs, absolute bull.

Teal_93 · Post by **Teal_93** » April 3rd, 2005, 3:10 pm

The group buy is not done. It goes until the 5th.

It was said that they needed 10 orders to be able to start shipping them.

What I recieved was an e-mail from paypal saying that Outlaw has shipped my spacers.

Gro Harlem · Post by **Gro Harlem** » April 3rd, 2005, 4:42 pm

babyblueMX3 wrote:
Gro Harlem wrote:yes, i would love to see a dyno sheet that you recorded of a Probe, MX3 or MX6 that isn't made in Microsoft Excel or some other generic software program. The ones on your site aren't real dyno sheets & I've yet to see any ProbeTalk guys show dyno sheets with 8hp and 12 torque gains using your product.

I've read negative comments on PT as well, more like mixed reviews overall.

The bolt that broke was one of those brass-colored intake manifold ones. I was not putting a lot of torque on it either, I was trying to remove it and the head snapped off.

And it is common knowledge that lengthening or shortening the manifold runners will shift the powerband curves.

As for the manifold rubbing...the KLZE manifold barely clears the hood to begin with, but with these spacers the problem increases. The stock K8 manifold sits way lower and would clear fine w/these spacers, but not a Eunos 800 manifold

And FYI: on your site you list the curved-neck style as "MS8"....the MS8 is the straight-neck manifold. The curved neck manifold came on the Eunos 800 (aka jdm/edm millenia).

HEre is a pic of an MS8:

straight neck manifold
this is not an ms8 Gro..Ms8 has a curve neck manifold just like a millenia.confirmed by some guys overseas

fraid not. Dunno what guys you talked to but every picture of an Efini MS-8 I've seen looks exactly like that car.

The only car I know of that has the KL68 is the Eunos 800 which looks identical in every way to the Millenia we got here.

Yoda · Post by **Yoda** » April 3rd, 2005, 10:42 pm

Luc St. Pierre discovered this way back in the summer of 1997 when he was looking at my engine accidently put his hand on it. To make a long story short he convinced a lot of Probe guys they worked to keep the intake a lot cooler, including Sean Morgan (ie Outlaw Engineeing) who started making them back in 1999

DavidOS wrote:they make a decent amount of difference, after 30 mins of driving you can still touch the intake manifold without burnign your hand off.

So the tally thus far is what?? 3 or 4 guys

DavidOS · Post by **DavidOS** » April 4th, 2005, 2:00 am

ok so how many people are in on this so far?

Teal_93 · Post by **Teal_93** » April 4th, 2005, 11:37 am

I just recieved mine in the mail today!!!!

Now I need to find time to put them on.

ovendenk · Post by **ovendenk** » April 4th, 2005, 1:27 pm

i'm dipping into the paintjob money, but i ordered my set.

can't wait for my first tried and tested performance mod. stupid repairs cost so much! this should be a good summer for the mx.

timpronk · Post by **timpronk** » April 5th, 2005, 12:39 pm

I bought a ze set, to rid my car of the summer heat soakies.