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everything you just said is your opinion. What is "hard" for you isnt that bad for someone else. Im sure Braden could install a haltec on a k series without too much hassle.<P>Sean Matthews as David has pointed out is running a ZE with boost...no issues.<P>Here's the point.<P>youre not going to hit 10s in the car without a ridiculous amount of money, and the car wont be streetable if you do.<P>the stock rods arent great, and depending on tuning, would probably hold, until something small happened, and then poof!<P>Smart? not the best idea, but its doable if you feel like being different and have cash.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS:<BR><STRONG>everything you just said is your opinion. What is "hard" for you isnt that bad for someone else. Im sure Braden could install a haltec on a k series without too much hassle.<P>Sean Matthews as David has pointed out is running a ZE with boost...no issues.<P>Here's the point.<P>youre not going to hit 10s in the car without a ridiculous amount of money, and the car wont be streetable if you do.<P>the stock rods arent great, and depending on tuning, would probably hold, until something small happened, and then poof!<P>Smart? not the best idea, but its doable if you feel like being different and have cash.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>of COURSE it's my opinion...that doesnt make it any less right. My opinion is based on years of seeing people attempt what this guy is talking about. Ask Mathews about how much NOSS he's running?<P>To answer his quesiton:<P>No. the ZE can't handle SC + N2O if either are of any appreciable size (e.g. 5psi + 50hp shot).

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BigProbe:<BR><STRONG><P><BR>of COURSE it's my opinion...that doesnt make it any less right. My opinion is based on years of seeing people attempt what this guy is talking about. Ask Mathews about how much NOSS he's running?<P>To answer his quesiton:<P>No. the ZE can't handle SC + N2O if either are of any appreciable size (e.g. 5psi + 50hp shot).</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>nobody has tried it :you:

I have heard a lot of good points but I don't consider $10,000 that much money. I am definately going with vortech and custom kit. The klze is very complicated but it is good practice for the new 3.0L V6 and LSD that will go into this mx-3 and so will the SC. <P>I know that nos is definately stupid for Eaton or JR SC but the vortech does have alittle lag until 4000 so I started to think if it might be possible. and I know hitting a 10.9 is pretty dam near impossible but I'm sure that the 3 litre will.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nvrsrndr:<BR><STRONG>I have heard a lot of good points but I don't consider $10,000 that much money.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>bro, if 10g's isn't that much money...can you slide me some loot to help out with my project?

Life iz short, spend large.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nvrsrndr:<BR><STRONG>I have heard a lot of good points but I don't consider $10,000 that much money. I am definately going with vortech and custom kit. The klze is very complicated but it is good practice for the new 3.0L V6 and LSD that will go into this mx-3 and so will the SC. <P>I know that nos is definately stupid for Eaton or JR SC but the vortech does have alittle lag until 4000 so I started to think if it might be possible. and I know hitting a 10.9 is pretty dam near impossible but I'm sure that the 3 litre will.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>why are you talking about stock internals and a 3L k series at the same time?<P>Any why is nitrous bad on an Eaton blower? They benefit BIG time from the intercooling effect.<P>Vortechs are crap....im sorry, but I just dont get it... why would you intentionally use something that only gets high end power, yet isnt as efficient as a Turbo?

while youre at it... you might as well put down for the 15 G's its gonna take to buy a custom quaife or Getrag gearbox that will allow the launches that a 10 sec car is capable of. Guess you could always find someone to weld up a place to allow use of one out of another car....mabye focus SVT or Mini Cooper S. Probably still need a custom gearset though, as the spacing is off for a 10 second car.

good point but I am a machinist and all I'd have to do is give one of the engineers a rod and piston and he could custimize this for me. He has already done this for his mustang that is sc. I don't think that anyone has made stronger internals for the klze yet but could be wrong. <P>All i ment with the comment on the 3.0L V6 is that I don't care so much about blowing the klze cause the new 3 litre is the real engine I want. This is just a hobby for me and I will eventually sell the mx-3 any ways cause my heart is for the mazdaspeed rx-7 in 2005. I would buy a 3rd gen but u know that old rotories have their own mind and they either work great or dont work at all.<P>thanks protege for the support as ur the only one that does. And for the rest of yall thanks for the debate.

what 3L are you talking aboout?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nvrsrndr:<BR><STRONG>I don't think that anyone has made stronger internals for the klze yet but could be wrong......</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I don't think anyone has built them for the KLZE specifically, but I have heard that 2JZ-GTE pistons, and ford rods will fit. I also heard that it would be good for over 20PSI worth of boost.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS:<BR><STRONG>what 3L are you talking aboout?</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I am talking about mazdas new 3.0L V6 that will be found in the mazda6. Mazda has created 2 new engines for the mazda6. one is an 2.3L inline 4 banger with sequential valve timing and the other is this 3.0 litre V6 rated at 220hp also with its new svt system and it comes with a lsd tranny. The only problem is getting your hands on one of these will be a 2 to 3 year wait, ah shucks! <BR>but it'll be worth the wait cause I believe the aftermarket will be making more turbo/sc kits for mazda as the MAZDASPEED PROTEGE will show everyone that mazda is back to making sport cars.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VizualXTC:<BR><STRONG><P>I don't think anyone has built them for the KLZE specifically, but I have heard that 2JZ-GTE pistons, and ford rods will fit. I also heard that it would be good for over 20PSI worth of boost.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Can someone verify this as fact cause it will save me a lot of time.

supra pistons are the same diameter(2JZ-GTE)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nvrsrndr:<BR><STRONG><P>I am talking about mazdas new 3.0L V6 that will be found in the mazda6. Mazda has created 2 new engines for the mazda6. one is an 2.3L inline 4 banger with sequential valve timing and the other is this 3.0 litre V6 rated at 220hp also with its new svt system and it comes with a lsd tranny. The only problem is getting your hands on one of these will be a 2 to 3 year wait, ah shucks! <BR>but it'll be worth the wait cause I believe the aftermarket will be making more turbo/sc kits for mazda as the MAZDASPEED PROTEGE will show everyone that mazda is back to making sport cars.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>i dont think the tuning possibilities are going to even come close if a big budget is allowed. You cant argue with a 1.8 rod ratio of the big k series engines.