Traction bars --- KL & BP

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Re: Traction bars --- KL & BP

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I know how it works, the connection swivels, thats fine, but the thing I was assuming, was that the connection on the new subframe was not exactly in line with the LCA rotational axis. If it is, then you're good.
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Both sides are in axis to the LCA's swing.
Cone spacers are provided instead of tube stock @ the heim joints- this allows for more pivot angle for the heim joints.

Given both ends are inline & both utilize cone spacers you could theoretically max out one side for pivot & still have some angle left on the opposing side. Thats the beauty of it :)
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the mazdaspeed mx-3 may need a set of these...are they only beneficial for straight line speed or is there more...
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They'd help with undesired toe changes under any hard acceleration, straight or corners.
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If I have enough funds after my swap, I maybe looking at these if you come up with more in the future. Kind of running low on funds for the moment. lol
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2- shipped out today!!

2 LEFT!!!!


here are better pictures showing where the bars mount.

the LCA's are a multi-layer stamped steel piece. the bottom hole & middle hole(from the bottom going up) must be slightly enlarged to match that of the upper hole ( M12 bolt size ) easily done with a drill/grinding bit in a matter of minutes

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Per the obvious. these pictures were taken during R&D - with incomplete bracketry.

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1 Left unspoken for.......

It appears these are the latest craze!!! :P :P :P
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Thank you kindly . Will be in touch .
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I hope you will make more down the road, maybe in 3 months or so??

Since engines are consistently expensive to build, I can rely on the price for parts and labor being high :lol: That being said, it's suspension overhaul time!

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As of now these are a limited run.
Each of these were put together using my old GS as a jig. - perfectly straight GS frame -

Shortly, finding un-bent/ un-twisted/ un-mangled mx3 tow hooks to use is also a severe challenge.

now in the event im given or acquire more tow hooks in good shape.
I could attempt to coax the new owner of my old car into letting me borrow it for test & building purposes.

End point. its fuzzy right now as to if there will be more made......
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You use towhooks for the brackets?

Would you be able to find a local machine shop that could produce 20 or 30 sets for a reasonable rate? I imagine it wouldn't be too hard... I would volunteer the use of my towhook as a template, assuming I could get it back in one piece.

That would reduce costs quite a bit for you, especially since towhooks require a lot of time/effort to source, in sufficient quantity at least.
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'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
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Producing new towhooks could be done theoretically.
But the production cost of cutting & bending said pieces would heavily outweigh on the cost to provide these.
The LCA brackets were waterjet cut & bent locally. so i have the ability.....

I bent each of the bars @ my current work (luckily enough to have access to a good pipe bender) this was my time & labor (which you can't really outsource from another shop cheaper)

However, i won't be working there for much longer. I'll be moving across country


My boss would be keen toward making more-- but would need to design a Jig of some sort in order to do so.
Wherein again lies the problem of sourcing a perfectly straight mx3 frame


Look @ the pictures on the first page again you'll have a better understanding of whats going on.
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Alright, thats a little beyond me sadly...

If I can help in any way, please let me know.

I would LOVE a chance to buy these, but I can't currently :(
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'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
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time will tell in terms of a 2nd batch....
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I'll be waiting impatiently! :P
Daily:
'12 Challenger R/T + STP - 3.92 w/ LSD, JG Cam, headers, SkipShift delete, Clutch Delay Valve delete, Hurst STS, RAM Clutch Adjuster, StopTech 6 Piston Brakes, Sticky Nittos, 435 WHP

Kid Hauler:
'08 Suburban LT 4WD - TVS 1900 Blower, LF SC Cam, headers, AFM delete, true 5" lift, 33x12s, 523 WHP

First Love:
'92 GS 5 spd - Straightneck KL/67mm TB, MegaSquirt/Coilpacks, 5 lugs/Speed6 brakes/FD wheels, wiretuck, coilovers, headers, AEM WB, Borla
Deleted: VAF/Power Steering/Air Conditioning/EGR/ABS/Auto Seatbelts/etc
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