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Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 1st, 2010, 12:47 am
by IMACHU2
Goofed around in the garage a bit this weekend. I bought new front brake calipers and flat black caliper paint. Cleaned up the rear brake calipers with a wire brush on the angle grinder.
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Used the Duplicolor flat black caliper paint. It came with "caliper cleaner" a can of paint, masking tape and a wee paint brush. The kit worked really well. It was fun painting the calipers with the we brush, reminded me of model cars from my childhood. :)

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A buddy gave me some Momo pedal pads about ten? years ago and they have been floating around the junk drawer ever since. Decided to put hem into action on project MX-326GS

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To go with the "Murdered-out" theme I wire brushed the Ferrari? red off the pedals.

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I am going to paint them a theme correct flat black.

What I thought was going to be a big pain in my a--, is going to be really easy. (Remote mounting the brake fluid reservoir). The reservoir comes off with a screw and is friction fit into two rubber grommets. I will simply have to put two double ended spigots in the master attach two lengths of hose to mount the reservoir remotely. It will be my next project, so if you don't get it, you will when I post some pictures.

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Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 1st, 2010, 2:01 am
by wytbishop
How will you secure your spigots in the master without making it look all ghetto? I have also been trying to find a tidy solution for this.

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 1st, 2010, 5:45 pm
by IMACHU2
Well as tidy as I could think of. Two MR. Gasket P/N P906's. They fit nice and tight into the master cyl.
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Two Russel P/N 670300 (bolt ito the P906'S)
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Four fake AN hose clamps Mr. Gasket P/N E63 (2) for the Russel fittings and (2) for the master cylinder reservoir. (Their black,not silver like my stolen image) LOL
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And 36 (sold by the inch) Wilwood P/N 220-5613 remote master cyl line.

I will take pictures and it will make more sense.....hopefully.

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 1st, 2010, 10:17 pm
by fowljesse
Looking forward to seeing it done!

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 10:58 am
by 93SOHC
I wondered if this was possible. Cant wait to see it done. I love this build!

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 12:41 pm
by wytbishop
I am concerned that unless there is some method of actually fastening the remote lines to the master cylinder that they will work themselves loose and either allow air/fluid to leak in/out or actually fall off. I don’t think that a tight fit is adequate. I think what I will drill a small hole through the boss where the fitting goes so that I can insert a wire clip above the barb in the fitting to hold it down. Something like this...
http://www.handymanlyness.com/archives/auto/repair/engine_mech/lubrication/oil_lines/mxgocl16a_jimmy_oil_cooler_lines.jpg

That would be an RS master cylinder you have there...have you checked to see if those fittings are the same as the GS master? I’m just curious.

I would also like to use a different reservoir than the stock one and separate the brake and clutch reservoirs but I’m not sure how to deal with the fluid level sensor. Does the brake warning light come on if it’s just unplugged? I’ve never checked.

The clutch doesn’t even really need a reservoir. I would just have about 4-6” of heavy clear tubing sticking straight up from the clutch master with a plug in the end. That way you could see if the fluid in the tube was going down. It doesn’t need a large reserve. This is a common modification to eliminate the reservoir on motorcycle rear brake systems.

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 3:14 pm
by IMACHU2
Sorry :lol: Iain and I , (the guy I work with) had a laugh at your expense. We could not get the fitting to come out after we SNAPPED it in. (it fits way,way tighter then the reservoir does). I understand your concern, but definitely not an issue in this case. This is not a new idea, I got it from a spanish dude. (He actually used plastic vaccum fittings with no trouble). My Master Cylinder (in the pictures) is a stock 1994 Mazda 323 part. Check a 5spd Chevrolet Cavalier they have a great clutch fluid resivoir (perfect for use in a kustom application). Check out the 323 resivoir, it looks engineered to be a remote mount master cyl bottle!

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Mazda 323 master:
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MX-3 V6 GS master:
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Random Spanish Dude's Straight neck KLZE BG 323 with remote mount reservoir:
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Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 4:14 pm
by wytbishop
I didn’t realize it was such a tight fit...that's good. The 323 and MX-3 RS brake master are the same...if those fittings also fit in the GS master I will pick a couple up and see what I can rig up. You’re right about that Cavalier clutch res. I would use it as a brake res and then eliminate the clutch res altogether. Just have to figure out how to trick the fluid level sensor.

Then I can use my KL 31 TB with the stock linkage. Nice work.

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 2nd, 2010, 8:25 pm
by mx3autozam
Why don't you just use the mx3 master? your using the rear disks so its a good idea to use it anyways.

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 2:58 pm
by IMACHU2
wytbishop:
"The 323 and MX-3 RS brake master are the same". My bad for 323'in up poor MX-3.com LOL

I have a MX-3 GS master, I can try the fittings in it. (will be a bit until i get back to the garage though).

mx3autozam:
Using the 323 master with its reservoir remote mounted for KLZE straight neck clearance. I have not seen a better fit yet. People claim MX-3 and MX-6 booster/master solutions, have not seen one I am comfortable with. Many guys use the 323 disc/drum master with mx-3 or Escort GT rear disc brake set-ups. They even use the stock proportioning valve. I have a aftermarket one though. :)



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Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 3rd, 2010, 3:25 pm
by wytbishop
323's are all welcome in my book. I assumed it was an RS master, but of course you would have gotten it from the 323. I should've figured that. I'm going to try to find a local distributor of those fittings. I think that might be the answer I've been looking for.

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 7th, 2010, 5:09 pm
by IMACHU2
My rad and fan came in. The Rad is a Griffin P/N 2-26185-X and the fan is a Flexalite P/N 212. (12") The rad came insanely fast. Ordered it Monday. It was built on Tuesday and I received it Thursday! I ordered it early because I figured it would take a month or two.

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Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 7th, 2010, 5:18 pm
by fowljesse
NIiiice!
I wanted one of those for several other applications in the past. Would you weigh it, and the GS one? How much was it?

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 7th, 2010, 6:26 pm
by IMACHU2
fowljesse wrote:NIiiice!
I wanted one of those for several other applications in the past. Would you weigh it, and the GS one? How much was it?
Thanks Jesse. This rad may be a little small for a MX-3? (22" Wide, 13"High, 2" Thick). I am going to put it IN the rad support of the 323. The new rad is going live where the A/C condenser would sit in a Air Conditioning equipped 323. (A V6 cylinder head will sit where the old rad was). LOL
It weights less then the box it came in. I can weight it for you though. I work at a speed shop so I got it for cost, but here is a link for a "real" idea on price. It was a little expensive, but it was the only "VW Scirocco" style rad I could find with the water inlets in the proper spots for the MaZda V6.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GRI-2-26185-X/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Project Jay-Spec MX-326GS

Posted: February 7th, 2010, 7:49 pm
by fowljesse
WEll, I know it's small, but assume it's effective, as you seem to know what you're doing ;)
I wanted to get an idea of how much cost/ weight savings An Al. rad would be. If you don't mind weighing it :)
I'm enjoying the progress!