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are you guys using 2.5 tranny or mx-3 tranny<BR>I'm using 2.5 northamerican ecu are you guys using a jspec ecu<BR>why is my mph higher yet my time is slower then yours?<BR>[ July 28, 2002: Message edited by: Smokin mx-3 ]<p>[ July 28, 2002: Message edited by: Smokin mx-3 ]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by curtklze:<BR><STRONG><BR>also, my KL-ZE is stock(except for a el-prototypes ECU), stock air box, stock exhaust and it made 156H.P. at the wheels with the intake manifold blazing hot.<P>if you are running the stock 1.8 ecu than I would guess your H.P would be about 145-150 hot.<P>so a 15.1-15.3 1/4 mile time sounds about right.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'm actually running the EL-Prototypes (Corksport) ecu as well. <P>So it sounds like what you're running is pretty close to what I'm running except for that I have a custom 2.5" exhaust w/high flow custom cat; and you got 156hp to the wheels? That sounds kind of on the low side for an engine that's supposed to be putting out 197-200hp, especially with the Corksport ecu which is supposed to add 7whp as well.<P>So by me expecting between 165-170whp after I dyno, would you think I'm high-ballin'? I'm basing that on a 15-20% drivetrain loss factor.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KNOCKOUT:<BR><STRONG><BR>So by me expecting between 165-170whp after I dyno, would you think I'm high-ballin'? I'm basing that on a 15-20% drivetrain loss factor.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>That's about right for a KLZE. Using the stock exhaust is choking the ZE, no doubt. But at least it's quiet <BR> <BR>Blue curve is a stock KLDE in a Probe GT MTX [135whp @ 5600RPM, 134 ft lbs @ 4800RPM]. <BR>The Red curve is a KLDE with headers, intake, and exhaust [151whp @ 5600RPM, 152 ft lbs @ 4900RPM]. <BR>The Green curve is a KLZE running an ECU from a KLDE; very different VRIS poitns as shown by the dips in the curves @ the KLDE VRIS poitns [172whp @ 5900RPM, 160 ft lbs @ 5000RPM].

Ah ok, that's more of what I expected. I'm wondering what kind of numbers I'll be putting out with the 2.5" exhaust and reprogrammed ecu? I'm expecting to see a bit more hp at a higher rpm (ecu), but probably slightly less torque because of the exhaust.<P>Thanks Dave

hey gabi I'm going to st thomas this friday wondering if you could meet me there

I'm running stock tranny, 1.8intake manifold, and stock rims/tires(with like 30% thread. stock muffler. <BR>ran 14.675@92.49<BR>My goal for next time 14.5...going to the track tomorrow

ohh yea...i have KL-ZE ECU

I think most of the time a Kl-ZE will run around low 14's. alot deppends on the driver alot.....

Traction is the name of the game with this setup. <P>I ran my buddy'd ITR and on my first and only run I got a 14.7.......moral of the story...those cars are easy to drive compared to our KL-ZE equiped MX-3's because of the much less torque they put out, which isn't that much of a bad thing.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KNOCKOUT:<BR><STRONG>Traction is the name of the game with this setup. </STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That's where I'm hoping the 4.11 gears are going to help me. We'll soon see...

What are the stock 1.8 tranny gear ratios? Where are you getting the 4.11's from?

Dave is talking about the final drive ratio, which is the gear ratio of the differential. The mx3 and mx6 have the same gear ratios for all 5 gears. The only difference is the final drive ratio, the mx3 having the 4.388 and the mx6 with 4.111. The 4.111 gives better gas mileage and blunts the acceleration a bit, which can help traction.

<P>this is my car with stock exhaust and no cold air intake system, or cooling down the intake manifold.