But here's the catch: only once the engine has warmed up does this occur.
Symptoms: I can depress the gas pedal ~25% before the engine bogs down between idle and ~4200 rpm. This only happens once the engine is heating up/at operating temperature, however. Once above 4200 rpm, the car responds normally. Also, once warm, the car is incredibly hard to start; requires much cranking, and sometimes an application of starting fluid (which I don't know whether or not is harmful to the electronic components in the intake).
So far, I've replaced the MAS (~4.8 ohm on the intake air temp sensor vs. ~2.4 ohm), and am going to replace the O2 sensor tomorrow (reading 8.6 ohms vs. 6 ohms spec @ 68F).
I've also checked out the throttle position sensor per the FSM, as well as the EGR valve. These are within operating spec. I have checked the resistances of my plug wires (16Kohm per meter, iirc) and they spec OK. Plugs themselves are fairly new (<5,000 miles), as is the dizzy cap. Fuel and air filters are brand new. I have inspected the air inlet lines, and can find to cracks or holes.
Things I haven't done, but am thinking about: jumpering GND and TEN connectors on the test port while @ operating temp, testing the fuel rail inlet line pressure, testing resistances of the fuel injectors.
Nothing I've done has alleviated my problem. Does anyone know which sensor the ECU takes a reading from between those RPM ranges (or thereabouts) and at operating temperature? That, or the ECU itself, is the likely culprit, IMO.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
edit: Also, there is no check engine light illuminated during any of these conditions. I have verified that the CEL does work, so it's not a burnt out bulb.
Stumble/lack of power between idle and 4200 rpm on 1.6L DOHC
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Re: Stumble/lack of power between idle and 4200 rpm on 1.6L DOHC
I read first sentence only, and I say "DISTRIBUTOR!"
Edit, I read the rest, and I still say "DISTRIBUTOR!"
Edit, I read the rest, and I still say "DISTRIBUTOR!"
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Black '93 BP RS - wrecked, parted, scrapped.
Green GS - Sold.
Black GS - Summer DD/Race car - Fancy KLZE
Red GS - K8-ATX -> MTX-KLDE - Frakencar. Scrapped
White GS - Rusty. Parts. Scrapped
1997 BMW M3 - my summer baby
2002 BMW 325Xi - sold
2003 Forester Xti - EJ20K swapped.
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Re: Stumble/lack of power between idle and 4200 rpm on 1.6L DOHC
Are there any tests I can do to eliminate individual components or pinpoint something? Everything I've read in the FSM suggests that I need to have a cast gold, diamond studded, platinum-plated contact magicounobtainium testing module to figure the dizzy out.
I like to figure out how stuff works, in addition to fixing it![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Or should I just replace the whole thing from the cam gear up and call it good?
I like to figure out how stuff works, in addition to fixing it
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
Or should I just replace the whole thing from the cam gear up and call it good?
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Re: Stumble/lack of power between idle and 4200 rpm on 1.6L DOHC
replace the whole thing, i had the same problem on my DE, these dizzys r weak and fragile, they do their job, but a bit more quality in the build process of its internal coil wouldve been greatly appreciated, my buddy with a ZE Probe GT has been thru 4 dizzys in the past 2 years(wtf) i know right
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Re: Stumble/lack of power between idle and 4200 rpm on 1.6L DOHC
Just got back from poking around the distributor, and the resistance readings are all jacked up; one is way too high, and the other is non-existent. The new distributor is on order and should arrive in the next few days. Hopefully that will be the extent of my problems for a while.
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Thank you for pointing me in the right direction
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Re: Stumble/lack of power between idle and 4200 rpm on 1.6L
Popped the new distributor in today, set the timing, and all is well!
Thanks again for the help![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Thanks again for the help
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