KLZE vs KFZE ?????

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KLZE vs KFZE ?????

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i know there are a lot of things about klze and kfze... but i want to know what your direct option about them... what you think the best setup is for it.. whether it is a straight manfold or a curved round or squared etc... and what is the main direct difference and how to tell whether or not it is a true klze or kfze
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Re: KLZE vs KFZE ?????

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Custommx3 wrote:F A Q
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is that your opinion?
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I belive it will be ALOT of ppls opinions if you do not use the FAQ and SEARCH areas.... :shrug:

And Barry is the site Admin... I think he can give any responce he likes....

Simple break down...

KLZE: 2.5L 200hp Most used swap drops in ready to go. KL31 stapmed on the heads is the best way to see if it's a true ZE.

KFZE: 2.0L 160HP?? Rare and not easy to get parts. Not sure the stamp on this one.

I did all that by using the FAQ section!!
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colinsmx3 wrote:I belive it will be ALOT of ppls opinions if you do not use the FAQ and SEARCH areas.... :shrug:

And Barry is the site Admin... I think he can give any responce he likes....

Simple break down...

KLZE: 2.5L 200hp Most used swap drops in ready to go. KL31 stapmed on the heads is the best way to see if it's a true ZE.

KFZE: 2.0L 160HP?? Rare and not easy to get parts. Not sure the stamp on this one.

I did all that by using the FAQ section!!
i wasn't trying to diss or come off rude but like i just want to know peoples opinions on it and not faqs.... i want to know what peoples personal stories or peoples person feelings on the subject and how they would set it up
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My opinion on the matter is simple...


Search


Because It has been covered Over and Over and Over and Over...


colinsmx3 wrote:
KFZE: 2.0L 160HP?? Rare and not easy to get parts. Not sure the stamp on this one.
Kf's have a KF stamp on the block
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a quick search of "kfze" with topics brought back this thread:

http://www.mx-3.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=46236" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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kf's are only fun when you invest about 8k i think was the final number in mine :)
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Stillen Cold Air Intake, Z1 Plenum Power Mod, Z1 Headers, Z1 Test Pipe, OBX (Ark) Exhaust, Up-Rev Osiris Engine Management (Tuned at Z1), 20x9" 20x10" Str Racing Concave Staggered Rims, SPC Camber kit, Tein H Techs Springs

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My opinion is , dont even bother with it.

I have had bought a klde and turned out to be a kfze(got ripped off) but I kept it as most kfs have really LOW mileage. But its just like a pepped k8/de.

The kf and the ze do NOT compare at all.


If you already have it, good its reliable but not for performance. I would actually recommend for people replacing the k8 for another k8 and they want a low mileage engine, get a kf.. getting the ecu is the tricky part tho. Most people go de but most de have high milleage.

I would recommend using search tho as me, and alot of people have made NUMEROUS threads about this engine.


My opinion.. ITS NOT WORTH doing anything to the kf.
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this is alot of information and confusing to take in when i am trying to pick a motor for my car
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I got The KFZE, i am using a manifold from a mazda millenia, the kf has round port heads but i used the gaskets as well as selant on them when mounting. I am also using the mazda millenia throttle body, ported the manifold and t/b with a dremal and about 5 hours of boredom.

I did the manifold and t/b because i planed on installing a millenia KLDE, then I found a deal on a KFZE for $175 u.s. they have another motor they tried to sell me both for 250 but i declined. The reason for the cheap price is the jdm imorted is mostly into nissans and hondas and such, they said they quit importing mazda motor about 3 yrs ago, so they have been sitting.. I live in GA if your close.

Ok so here's a brokedown listof my mods n motor
KFZE
Millenia ze ported manifold and throttlebody, also millenia klde fueling
kf distirbutor (same as klze) Blaster2 coil and hei mod.
Pacesetter headers
3' 1/2 inch diameter modified rx7 cold air intake
Underdrive pulley (i know most dont approve of this)
I just got my megasquirt, I got a set of kl01 cams but dont know if these are better than kfo1

I bought the car with a starting/running problem and even after the motor swap/megasquirt the issue is still there. So i plan on taking it to a dealer/certified mechanic soon, maybe the end of april
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Dont buy a KFZE.. trust me, and brian, and hector.
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Custommx3 wrote:Dont buy a KFZE.. trust me, and brian, and hector.
i heard that with the klze that it might not pass emissions
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If you get your ECU chipped, and keep your EGR, you should be fine with emissions. If you are that worried, you shouldn't change the motor in your car - you will need a bigger exhaust (well you should get one) which means new cat, headers, muffler and piping. Any motor you get will have its problems. Expect to pay $3000 to put a new engine in the car, all said and done. (You can spend less, but this is a good point to start at) You will want to change the clutch, fluids, spark plugs, etc etc. It adds up quickly.

Get a KLZE. More bang for your buck, more aftermarket support and more reliability. Or don't and do your own thing!
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Saku wrote:
Custommx3 wrote:Dont buy a KFZE.. trust me, and brian, and hector.
i heard that with the klze that it might not pass emissions

I don't know about where you live but here in Ontario you can ask to get your car tested under lower standards if you have a swapped motor. Mine passed with flying colours without EGR, running badly and without O2 sensors. And I've heard that a properly running ZE will pass emissions without EGR.
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