[FS] Polyurethane Bushings

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[FS] Polyurethane Bushings

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Ok everyone. We've waited long enough. I have done all the research and double and triple checked everything and long since been given permission by Jeff to go forward with the Poly Bushing Group Buy.

This link will show you what the kit will look like.
This page of the GI thread shows several iterations of the design.

This is the post which shows the final design and the original pricing. Some of the information in this post may have changed.

Since the original [GI] thread is full of a bunch of other crap I will summarize here. This will also be place for you to tell me exactly what you want to order. These are the final details.

Pricing is as follows:

10 - 14 complete sets sold: $350ea + shipping
15 or more complete sets sold: $300ea + shipping

These prices include everything. Paypal fees, forum donation are included in these prices.

A complete kit includes:

4 @ Front Lower Control Arm, Front half bushing (all bushings are 2 piece bushings)
4 @ Front Lower Control Arm, Rear half bushing (SEE IMPORTANT NOTE BELOW!!!)
8 @ Rear Lateral Link Common half bushing
6 @ Rear Lateral Link Short half bushing
2 @ Rear Lateral Link Long half bushing
4 @ Rear Trailing Arm, Front half bushing
4 @ Rear Trailing Arm, Rear half bushing (RS or GS, please specify)
Installation washers
16 plain carbon steel crush sleeves CAD plated
Silicone based Polyurethane lube

If you only need a partial set, the prices are as follows:

LATERAL LINK KIT: $150 + shipping
TRAILING ARM KIT: $100 + shipping
FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARM KIT: $100 + shipping

Lube is included in the price of partial kits. As of this moment I don't have final details on the lube. My local distributor is having individual "Squeeze Packs" made up and couldn't give me pricing when I spoke to him last week. I will either use those or I will buy in bulk and find an alternate dispensing method.

All partial kits are 1 kit PER CAR and include crush sleeves and washers if applicable.

Bushings are black. Sorry, the poly company does not want the hassle of multiple colors and neither do I.

Bushings can be ordered in 70, 80 or 90 Shore A hardness.

***AN IMPORTANT NOTE REGARDING THE LOWER CONTROL ARM REAR BUSHING***
The LCA rear bushing is the shelled bushing that looks like this...

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There are 2 different part numbers for this bushing on the MX-3. I am not making both. I have decided to make only the smaller earlier version as it is less expensive, and will offer a tighter ride. If you have a car made 06/94 or later, your car will have larger shells and this bushing will not fit for you. The smaller shells can be sourced from any early MX-3. There are 4 early cars in my local parts yard at the moment. I can pull some if necessary and ship them along with your bushings if necessary.

I have created an email acct wytbushings@hotmail.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; to receive all of your email correspondence as well as your Paypal payments.

To place your order I need to know:

Your name:
Your shipping address:
Your forum handle:
GS or RS:

Tell me exactly what you are ordering: i.e. Complete kit, Selected kits, hardness...be specific! You may specify some bushings harder than others. This is entirely up to you.

***NOTE REGARDING HARDNESS***
I HAVE DONE MUCH READING REGARDING THE HARDNESS OF THE REAR END BUSHINGS AND ITS AFFECT ON THE HANDLING OF THE CAR. IT IS MY STRONG RECOMENDATION THAT BUSHINGS HARDER THEN 80A NOT BE USED IN THE LATERAL LINKS. HARDER COMPOUNDS IN THE FRONT END AND TRAILING ARMS SHOULD NOT CREATE ADVERSE HANDLING CONDITIONS, HOWEVER HARD LATERAL LINK BUSHINGS WILL PROBABLY NEGATE THE ACTIVE STEERING INTENDED IN THE DESIGN OF THE SUSPENSION AND MAY EVEN CAUSE BINDING IN THE SUSPENSION. 70A HARDNESS IS RECOMMENDED FOR THE LATERAL LINKS.

ULTIMATELY, THE DECISION IS YOURS AND I DISCLAIM ANY LIABILITY BASED ON THE SELECTION OF BUSHING HARDNESS AND ITS AFFECT ON YOUR CAR'S HANDLING.



Persons ordering complete kits must submit a $200 deposit. Persons ordering partial kits must pay in full.

As soon as I receive 10 deposits of $200 I will place the order for the molds. If you want to wait to see if the price will go down that's fine but if I don't get 10 deposits I will not place the order. I will update the list as soon as deposits are received. If you make your deposit hoping for the price to go down and only 10 - 14 people ultimately sign up, you're on the hook. Once the order is placed, you will not get your deposit back. If you don't come through with the final payment I will sell your bushings to someone else. Once I place the order for the molds I AM ON THE HOOK for a few thousand dollars.

I feel I need to repeat this. If you make a deposit you must be prepared to complete payment at the pricing level the group buy has currently achieved. Once 10 deposits are received and the order is placed NO DEPOSITS WILL BE RETURNED...PERIOD. If the pricing level changes, final payments will be adjusted accordingly for everyone but don't give me your deposit if you can't afford to pay at that price level. If 10 deposits are not received, deposits will be returned.

If anyone has any questions please email me at wytbushings@hotmail.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; or post in this thread. Don't PM me here...it gets full in a hurry and it's a pain.

I look forward to doing business.

Charlie
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Re: [FS] Polyurethane Bushings

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Excellent! I will be deciding what hardness I want for what pieces very soon!

In the interest of getting as many people as possible for this, do we want to try to bring in "outsiders" to this group buy, or do you think we should keep it only in this community? Reason I ask is because there are numerous international mx3 forums, and clubprotege as well...some will hear through the grapevine, others will not.

Thoughts?
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As I was just saying to Marc in the other thread, I'm not 100% certain of the sizing of bushings in other markets. It is not unlikely that they have some subtle differences. I suppose I could post the general dimensions and people could check before ordering. I have been planning to approach the CP board once we're well under way. I would need to have a couple more molds made to cater to the other BG variants.
94' RS/GS/MS/CF Monster Turbo...coming soon.
93' GS SE, the Black Beast, the former love of my life...soon to be gutted and crushed.
94' GS, black on black, now in several small pieces...and one large crushed piece.
2007 Mazda3 GT Sport --- super fun
2004 Honda RC51 --- Lost forever to some theavin' bastard
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Re: [FS] Polyurethane Bushings

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I want rear lateral link and trailing arm kits in 90A durometer I currently got SRD in my front control arms and I am very happy with them, so I don't see a need for these. I will not have money untill next Friday(Feb27)that is when I get paid. So I will keep an eye on this thread and when that time comes I will paypal you the money. Any idea on shipping to Ontario?

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I am guessing not more than $30...but that's only a guess.
94' RS/GS/MS/CF Monster Turbo...coming soon.
93' GS SE, the Black Beast, the former love of my life...soon to be gutted and crushed.
94' GS, black on black, now in several small pieces...and one large crushed piece.
2007 Mazda3 GT Sport --- super fun
2004 Honda RC51 --- Lost forever to some theavin' bastard
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Oops... I pmed you. Sorry.

I will be sending my initial payment as soon as is convenient. I just have to fully decide on how firm I want them.
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I will assume Canadian currency...Imperial credits are no good here...
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Yes, the Imperial Dogs get a pretty hefty break on this one. All prices are in colorful money.
94' RS/GS/MS/CF Monster Turbo...coming soon.
93' GS SE, the Black Beast, the former love of my life...soon to be gutted and crushed.
94' GS, black on black, now in several small pieces...and one large crushed piece.
2007 Mazda3 GT Sport --- super fun
2004 Honda RC51 --- Lost forever to some theavin' bastard
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Cool! I'm in for a kit! When do you want the 1st payment by? :D
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To place your order I need to know:

Your name:
Your shipping address:
Your forum handle:
GS or RS:

Tell me exactly what you are ordering: i.e. Complete kit, Selected kits, hardness...be specific! You may specify some bushings harder than others. This is entirely up to you.

Persons ordering complete kits must submit a $200 deposit. Persons ordering partial kits must pay in full.

Send your money by paypal to wytbushings@hotmail.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. As soon as I have enough deposit money I will place the order.
94' RS/GS/MS/CF Monster Turbo...coming soon.
93' GS SE, the Black Beast, the former love of my life...soon to be gutted and crushed.
94' GS, black on black, now in several small pieces...and one large crushed piece.
2007 Mazda3 GT Sport --- super fun
2004 Honda RC51 --- Lost forever to some theavin' bastard
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For anyone not sure of whether they should buy poly bushings, check out this miata discussion:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/printthread.p ... ge=1&pp=25" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The part where they describe how the car feels after installation is what you should be expecting!
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PAID MY DEPOSIT! Get on board people!
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I want the rear kits with 70A wherever they flex for rear steering, and 90A where they don't.
I don't have the $$ right now, but if I end up being the guy slowing it down, I'll get it.
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I think I'll borrow from Jesse's idea bank a little. 70A where flex is to be allowed for rear steering, 80A otherwise. Again, I'll try to get the initial payment out within the next couple days.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again..
I have all Poly bushings on my car, and Nyloil in the front A arms, and it is probably the most noticeable suspension upgrade you can do, especially since we have rear wheel steering. If this was the only upgrade you did, you'd kick butt at autocross!
'93 GS - P&P DE w/ ZE exh. cams/ pistns, KLG4 IM, 65mm TB, MSnS, Phenos, K&N RAI, UDP, Grnd wires, rear batt, filld MM, torq strt, TWM short shftr, Exedy, Lng tube hdrs 2.5" Side exhaust, H&R sprngs, Poly bushngs, strutbars, Alum. crss mmber&tiebar, 22mm swybar, solid links, Direzzas, leather int, Alpine 9805 stereo & alrm, keyless entry, 10 Boston Accoustics spkrs, Prjectrs, Blaster2, CF hood, FG hatch, Lexan
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