Zzzoomx3's Work Log - 1993 MX3 GS - KLZE
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Zzzoomx3's Work Log - 1993 MX3 GS - KLZE
Here is my first worklog 2.5" Custom Exhaust
http://synefx.com/worklogs/exhaust/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is a worklog to build an exhaust from the cat or straight pipe to the muffler - without welding. This was made for my ZE but can be made for other engines needing the output. A 3" exhaust can be made the same way - just have to make sure you make it so it doesnt drag the ground.
http://synefx.com/worklogs/exhaust/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is a worklog to build an exhaust from the cat or straight pipe to the muffler - without welding. This was made for my ZE but can be made for other engines needing the output. A 3" exhaust can be made the same way - just have to make sure you make it so it doesnt drag the ground.
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Re: 2.5" Exhaust
What is this post about? May want to fix the title as per the worklog rules on the sticky
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Re: Building a 2.5" Exhaust System
Is it for a 1.6L? cause it if it does it really need a 2.5in.
But meh looks decent.
3in would have been to much keep up the work.
But meh looks decent.
3in would have been to much keep up the work.
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Re: Building a 2.5" Exhaust System
That is from zzzoomx3's sig. So I guess its for a V6, lol.1993 MX3 V6
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Re: Building a 2.5" Exhaust System
i would presume it could be for any engine that needs the output - 3" would have been ok for the ZE or higher output engine but it would have to be built differently so it wouldnt drag the ground.
Re: Building a 2.5" Exhaust System
I've heard somewhere that for every lt you need 1" so I really don't think it would be usefull.
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Re: Building a 2.5" Exhaust System
well considering the ZE is a 2.5 - it proves to be very useful and quite effective - i can certainly tell a difference from the stock exhaust i used to have on there before. but upon further research - a 3" would have been hurtful unless i were producing much, much more horsepower - like a V8.
I found this article:
Keep in mind that the diameter of the pipes are extremely important. There is a common myth that engines need back-pressure. Many believe that the more back-pressure the better. That is in no way true. In fact, engines perform extremely well with so little back-pressure that there is almost none. This myth probably came from import owners with Honda Civics and Eclipses with 3 inch diameter pipes. By doing this, there performance was reduced. They figured that they had less back-pressure that since there performance was reduced back-pressure is good. What happened was that these giant pipes did not reduce back-pressure but actually increased it. Less back-pressure means its creating a vortex of sorts. Think of a vehicle going down a gravel road. This vehicle kicks up dust and swirls around behind the car. Directly behind the car is less pressure therefore the dust actually trails behind the car. The proof in that the dust follows the vehicle is think of when this vehicle stops. The dust still moves forward in the same direction you were traveling. This same effect goes on inside your exhaust. Getting an exhaust to big can actually decrease your performance and increase back-pressure. Think of having a large straw and blowing through it. Now take a smaller straw and blow through it. You will find its easier, unless the straw is extremely small. So you must make sure that you have the right diameter.
For 4-cylinder motors, a good size is generally between 1 3/4 inches to 2 1/4 inches. For 6-cylinder, a good general size is between 2 inches to 2 3/4 inches. 8-cylinders have a good range between 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 inches. You could possibly get away with a 3-inch pipe on a V8, as well. Again, this all depends on the motor you have and what works well.
This whle work log works with any size piping you can find - I found all these parts at Autozone and they had the parts to do 1 3/4" exhaust to a 3" exhaust. so have fun with it - no matter what you need.
I found this article:
Keep in mind that the diameter of the pipes are extremely important. There is a common myth that engines need back-pressure. Many believe that the more back-pressure the better. That is in no way true. In fact, engines perform extremely well with so little back-pressure that there is almost none. This myth probably came from import owners with Honda Civics and Eclipses with 3 inch diameter pipes. By doing this, there performance was reduced. They figured that they had less back-pressure that since there performance was reduced back-pressure is good. What happened was that these giant pipes did not reduce back-pressure but actually increased it. Less back-pressure means its creating a vortex of sorts. Think of a vehicle going down a gravel road. This vehicle kicks up dust and swirls around behind the car. Directly behind the car is less pressure therefore the dust actually trails behind the car. The proof in that the dust follows the vehicle is think of when this vehicle stops. The dust still moves forward in the same direction you were traveling. This same effect goes on inside your exhaust. Getting an exhaust to big can actually decrease your performance and increase back-pressure. Think of having a large straw and blowing through it. Now take a smaller straw and blow through it. You will find its easier, unless the straw is extremely small. So you must make sure that you have the right diameter.
For 4-cylinder motors, a good size is generally between 1 3/4 inches to 2 1/4 inches. For 6-cylinder, a good general size is between 2 inches to 2 3/4 inches. 8-cylinders have a good range between 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 inches. You could possibly get away with a 3-inch pipe on a V8, as well. Again, this all depends on the motor you have and what works well.
This whle work log works with any size piping you can find - I found all these parts at Autozone and they had the parts to do 1 3/4" exhaust to a 3" exhaust. so have fun with it - no matter what you need.
Re: Building a 2.5" Exhaust System
hey zzzoom thanks for finally posting this up! i cant wait to get started on mine. i might have to wait a while cause i figure i may as well wait til i get a turbo.
i still cant believe how low it hangs!
but i'll keep you posted on how it all turns out for me....plus i'm leaning more and more towards the dual side exhausts
i still cant believe how low it hangs!
but i'll keep you posted on how it all turns out for me....plus i'm leaning more and more towards the dual side exhausts
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Re: Building a 2.5" Exhaust System
you're welcome - but remember - you can still use a 2.5 with a turbo - and you can always add more hangers so it wont be so low. i'm a freak and kinda like it - it reminds of some of the WRXs i've seen running around with the huge 3" systems...
Re: Building a 2.5" Exhaust System
hey thats true! a 2.5 wouldn't be all that bad for turbo or non turbo.
i was looking at oreilly's and maybe its only in kansas but their straight pipes are only 2" in diameter, 18" long, and are 8 bucks a peice. i have yet to look at autozone.
i was looking at oreilly's and maybe its only in kansas but their straight pipes are only 2" in diameter, 18" long, and are 8 bucks a peice. i have yet to look at autozone.
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Re: Building a 2.5" Exhaust System
yeah - thats more $$ than Autozone - i listed the prices in my other thread - but i will list them again on the work log. I know the straight pipes were 2' long and $5.99, the bends were the same price while all the other pieces were $2.99.
again - i can definitely tell a difference in engine response with this new exhaust, just when i didnt think i could get anymore out of the ZE - i cant wait to get the ECU chipped next week - that will really open it up.
again - i can definitely tell a difference in engine response with this new exhaust, just when i didnt think i could get anymore out of the ZE - i cant wait to get the ECU chipped next week - that will really open it up.
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Re: Zzzoomx3's Work Log - 1993 MX3 GS - KLZE Swap
my next work log will be a Fuel Pressure Regulator and later i will be adding pics and tips from the ZE swap
Re: Zzzoomx3's Work Log - 1993 MX3 GS - KLZE Swap
aha!!! finally!
now i dont have to worry about all this info going to waste! haha!
so are you going to keep ur website update frequently? are you going to post here everytime you do update it?
now i dont have to worry about all this info going to waste! haha!
so are you going to keep ur website update frequently? are you going to post here everytime you do update it?
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