Anyone have any experience with tuning the B6De engine, I don't want to swap a BP in my car, so im thinking about buying a used b6de and put some performance stuff inside it
the law here in denmark only allows a 25% power increase, and thats about 146Hp, so would it be possible to give it around 150hp without a turbo ?
any links to parts or just names would be great, and please use the full name I don't know any of the short sentences you use for parts
mortenmorfar wrote:Anyone have any experience with tuning the B6De engine, I don't want to swap a BP in my car, so im thinking about buying a used b6de and put some performance stuff inside it
the law here in denmark only allows a 25% power increase, and thats about 146Hp, so would it be possible to give it around 150hp without a turbo ?
any links to parts or just names would be great, and please use the full name I don't know any of the short sentences you use for parts
u can't TUNE unless u have some way of altering ur fuel maps and timing.. which can be down with some king of getto piggyback (not worth it) or some kind of standalone such as MS-II. unless u can't plug it to a lab top u can't tune.. AKA Tuning
since it seems like ur still OEM u can only do a TUNE UP.. change oil. spark plugs, wires, mess around with the dizzy, air filter just general maintenance..
Tuning and tune up are two different things...
(12.4@118@18psi) 92 MX-3, KIA (BP-DE)Swap, Electromotive TEC II Standalone, 8,200 Rev Limit, Custom Intake/Exhaust Manifold, 1,000cc PTE Injectors, Custom Fuel Rail, Aeromotive FPR, 80MM Holley TB, MSD 8.5MM Wires, NGK V-Power #8, SC6262 Turbo, 3 in. DownPipe, Tial WG/BOV, 600HP PTE FMIC, 2.5IN Intercooler Piping, EQUUS/Autometer KIA G-Series Tran, Extreme ACT Clutch, Built BP in starting process.
I don't want to swap in a BP because I can't find one with OBDII, and here in denmark we use different names for the cars, I can only find the OBDI engines from 1988-1993 from a Mazda 323 BG1, not any newer
and it would be too expensive to have one shipped from the US, but I can find plenty of B6DE's, so I was thinking about tuning one of thoes, but if I cant get the allowed 25% increase out of it, I don't want to swap it
More aggressive cams, get the head gas flowed, heck, if you can put bigger valves in there, port it, polish it... bore it out a bit??? I'm not sure how hardy the BP is against heavy revving, but if you strengthen the internals and remove that redline? I think you could make the BP a very fun engine... granted you have the amazing amounts of money to do so
check out some miata sites, they'll have EXTENSIVE information on making a BP screamer.
Okay will google it, but it would be impossible to find it here in denmark, then I would have to get it shiped from somewhere and that would be too expensive
the only BP's i can find here is from a mazda 323F BG1 with a 128hp engine, and an automatic bp with 140hp (without cat ?)
128hp + 25% = 160hp sound good? or 140hp + 25% = 175hp auto trans engines can be put in manual trans cars, it's pretty easy. The extra hp will be pricey if you can't do most work yourself.
As far as my 155hp example thats a japan spec version of the motor so its only in japan and possibly australia.
Don't you have 323/familia gtx and gtr's there? The turbo 4wd hatchbacks? Either the 1.6 turbo or the 1.8 turbo would easily be enough for you and there is more room to expand their power if need be (as per your 25% rule). Not only that but its easier to get more hp and more importantly torque out of a turbo 4cyl.
If you have a b6de and can find a 1.6 turbo engine (b6t) you can use its injectors, ecu, manifolds and turbo on your engine and have approx 140hp then get an exhaust to up you the next 5hp,
it's only 25% more over the original power, so 146Hp is the most I can put in it without having to get a custom registration for the car (expensive), of course nobody can look at an engine and tell if it have 140 or 160hp
we properly have some 323 GTX, but without the name I cant find it in the scrap yard's catalog, pretty stupid they don't have a search option that actually works... oh well I will have a look
If you know there are 323 gtx's whats the problem? What do you mean by name? I don't think you could be any more specific than saying "19xx Mazda 323 gtx" thats make model year and trim level. What else do they want?
Because a 323 GTX doesn't exist here in Denmark, they are using different names
323 BD 80-85
323 BF 86-87
323 BF 88>
323 F BG1 90-94
323 C BA13 94-98
323 S BA12 94-98
323 F BA14 94-98
323 HB BA15 97-00
and a couple more, so I cant just search for a GTX model when we don't have one with that name, and I cant find anywhere on the internet that shows what model it is here in denmark
Well if you want a 1.6 turbo thats a bf car 1986-1989 and a 1.8 turbo is a bg 1990-1994. My 1.8 turbo was from a 93 bg gtx for example.
323 F BG1 90-94 this is a 3 door 323 hatch right? not a lantis or a 5 door version? Honestly I don't know if anyone over here will know those types of names (ie european ones) for these cars. You guys got different models so thee is more to know about the differences.
I wonder if getting in touch with someone in Germany or England might help as they have gtx/gtr's there and might be able to tell you the name.
you can get the hp you want out of a b6de without turbo but it will cost you... since the miata and mx-3 dohc 1.6L are essentially the same you can do all of this and more:
Greddy EMU piggy back (not ghetto as lime called piggy backs this one is amazing and the turbo and na miata community rave about this thing)
wiseco pistons
stronger rods
overbore engine
larger stainless steel valves (although i found a guy that takes honda engines and makes the valves smaller and gets much better gains not sure if this would work in a mazda engine)
port and polish the head
header
exhaust
aftermarket camshafts
adjustable cam gears
ram air intake or cold air intake
aluminum flywheel
i am sure there is more you could do also and reach your horse power goal.. start searching for miata 1.6L engine parts cause pretty much all of them will fit your car
