Need help with short shifters
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Need help with short shifters
I'm looking to get a short shifter put in. I was looking around ebay and saw they had some cheap ones like this -
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda-MX ... dZViewItem
was kind of skeptic of these, how good of quality they were, does it come with all the parts necessary for installing. I don't know if anyone bought one similar to those on ebay. Or what other ones would be cheap but good quality, I've been looking around here and saw pacesetter and b&m the most popular ones. What would you recommend?
My car right now does not shift very easily, especially going from 2nd to 3rd gear. Would a putting in a new shifter fix that problem or would something else need to be worked on.
And how about installing it? I found this link
http://www.twmperformance.com/manuals/M ... manual.pdf
Is installation really that simple, what kind of problems could occur?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda-MX ... dZViewItem
was kind of skeptic of these, how good of quality they were, does it come with all the parts necessary for installing. I don't know if anyone bought one similar to those on ebay. Or what other ones would be cheap but good quality, I've been looking around here and saw pacesetter and b&m the most popular ones. What would you recommend?
My car right now does not shift very easily, especially going from 2nd to 3rd gear. Would a putting in a new shifter fix that problem or would something else need to be worked on.
And how about installing it? I found this link
http://www.twmperformance.com/manuals/M ... manual.pdf
Is installation really that simple, what kind of problems could occur?
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Re: Need help with short shifters
Those install instr. basically cover it, although the TWM STS is adjustable IIRC where the one on ebay (B&M knock-off) is not adjustable (neither is the actual B&M STS). One Q to ask the ebay seller is if a new snap ring/circle-clip is bagged in with the new STS.KrissyKCMU wrote:I'm looking to get a short shifter put in. I was looking around ebay and saw they had some cheap ones like this -
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda-MX ... dZViewItem
was kind of skeptic of these, how good of quality they were, does it come with all the parts necessary for installing. I don't know if anyone bought one similar to those on ebay. Or what other ones would be cheap but good quality, I've been looking around here and saw pacesetter and b&m the most popular ones. What would you recommend?
My car right now does not shift very easily, especially going from 2nd to 3rd gear. Would a putting in a new shifter fix that problem or would something else need to be worked on.
And how about installing it? I found this link
http://www.twmperformance.com/manuals/M ... manual.pdf
Is installation really that simple, what kind of problems could occur?
Your 2nd-3rd shift prob could well be caused by wear to the shifter bushings as opposed to a worn shifter. I had a 1st to 2nd "sticky shift" before installing an ebay B&M knockoff. Replacing with a STS will not necessarily resolve that prob unless you replace the shifter bushings at the same time. I installed an ebay aftermarket B&M-type of STS last year and also replaced the worn stock rubber shift bushings with bronzoil bushings from http://www.SRDperformance.com. The improvement was dramatic - like driving a different car. You do take your chances w/an aftermarket "no name" vs an actual B&M product. In my case, it worked fine (dif ebay seller though) btw, It's a good sign that the ebay listing indicates a steel (instead of billet aluminum) product. Steel is what you want.
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You could always do this:
http://eunos30x.com/howtos/shifterswap/index.html
Or a straight swap is even easier if you want to outlay the $$$ for an aftermarket one (but I don't see why):
http://eunos30x.com/howtos/shifterswap/ ... tswap.html
and put some Redline oil in the tx, that might help the shifting problems.
http://eunos30x.com/howtos/shifterswap/index.html
Or a straight swap is even easier if you want to outlay the $$$ for an aftermarket one (but I don't see why):
http://eunos30x.com/howtos/shifterswap/ ... tswap.html
and put some Redline oil in the tx, that might help the shifting problems.
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get the srd bushing.... change the tranny oil and make sure to put in some good stuff like royal purple, redline, amsoil, or mobel 1 fully synthetic any of those will be good
i really dont know if there is a huge difference in any of the shifters i'd just get one of the ebay ones and probably cut an inch or three off and decress the shifter through even more then but a shifter knob on and call it a day.... the big thing with shorter shifters is that it does require more effort to shift... you are loosing leverage but making it a shorter through.. it will take a few days to get used to the new pressure required to shift but after that it is smooth sailing
oh and nice to see another MI person in here (my home state)
i really dont know if there is a huge difference in any of the shifters i'd just get one of the ebay ones and probably cut an inch or three off and decress the shifter through even more then but a shifter knob on and call it a day.... the big thing with shorter shifters is that it does require more effort to shift... you are loosing leverage but making it a shorter through.. it will take a few days to get used to the new pressure required to shift but after that it is smooth sailing
oh and nice to see another MI person in here (my home state)
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I had the same problem. I would have to jam 2nd into 3rd sometimes. I did get a B&M shortshifter but what really helped with smoothing the shifting was replacing all the shifter bushings like these guys have already said. I too used SRD bushings. The B&M was just to allow me to have a slightly shorter throw (I no longer feel like I'm shifting with my whole arm extended going into 3rd).
The hardest part with installing the new shifter would be removing the bolt at the bottom of the old shifter -#8- where it joins the control rod #12. I would suggest buying a replacment bolt from Mazda. Here is what I replaced. (Sorry for the huge post.)
Use this diagram as a parts guide.
This goes to the extention arm where the rod conects to the side of the transmission. #16 in the guide.
These -#18-
go here-
This is probably the hardest part to replace because you have to grind the bolt off (it wasn't made to be replaced)
It looks like this from underneath. The best way to grind off the flat part of this bolt would be to pull back on the rubber boot, unbolt the link inside and disconnect the control arm altogether from the tranny so you don't have to grind it underneath the car.
Go to http://www.srdperformance.com for these parts.
Take these guys' advice, change the tranny fluid to the brands they recommended.
Are you doing the install yourself?
The hardest part with installing the new shifter would be removing the bolt at the bottom of the old shifter -#8- where it joins the control rod #12. I would suggest buying a replacment bolt from Mazda. Here is what I replaced. (Sorry for the huge post.)
Use this diagram as a parts guide.
This goes to the extention arm where the rod conects to the side of the transmission. #16 in the guide.
These -#18-
go here-
This is probably the hardest part to replace because you have to grind the bolt off (it wasn't made to be replaced)
It looks like this from underneath. The best way to grind off the flat part of this bolt would be to pull back on the rubber boot, unbolt the link inside and disconnect the control arm altogether from the tranny so you don't have to grind it underneath the car.
Go to http://www.srdperformance.com for these parts.
Take these guys' advice, change the tranny fluid to the brands they recommended.
Are you doing the install yourself?
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yes they carry all the MOTUL oils. tranny, brake, engine. i got in waterloo at poit zer auto sound. http://www.pztuning.ca
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Thats bulls---.
Short shifters have no such rep I don't even understand what
A short throw shifter is a great, inexpensive mod with no negative side effects that improves your enjoyment of driving.
Short shifters have no such rep I don't even understand what
means.B. You get excited slamming gears that it eats it up.
A short throw shifter is a great, inexpensive mod with no negative side effects that improves your enjoyment of driving.
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