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i guess there are different bests for different needs... mine is for autox sad thing is my suspension will cost like twice what the car cost or more
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where can I get those ss endlinks that are on the list?
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I have some MS adjustable struts on their way from Corksport... as there are 2 sets left ever!

... and I think I'm going with some H&R springs and all SRD bushings...
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Hmm...

-all SRD stuff (its a must have, honestly)
-Koni Inserts
-20mm solid rear jspec sway bar
-ground controls with custom rates
-V6 rack and pinion
-front and rear strut tower bars
-6 point role cage
-maybe some custom Hiem joint sway bar end links
-Cusco front and rear camber plates (hopefully ill have thies by summer)
-oh and almost forgot AWD platform MX3 :)

i have most of it, almost finnished

i just have to get the camber plates, SRD front under stabilizer bar, the end links, and finnish making the rolbar. and im there
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Don't get me wrong, I think it's awesome that you've done so much work to your car and everything. But for the money and time you've spent doing all that you could buy a brand new WRX STi or EVO and go so much faster. lol
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who were you posting that to? a wrx sti is almost 30 grand or more isn't it? i could do an awd and bp swap with the most expensive bolt on after market suspension available for the swap and still pay way less than that including the price of my mx-3 as i'm sure any of these others have done.. for 20 - 30 grand you'd have one freaking amazing mx3 that should blow most other cars out of the water
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projectmx wrote:who were you posting that to? a wrx sti is almost 30 grand or more isn't it? i could do an awd and bp swap with the most expensive bolt on after market suspension available for the swap and still pay way less than that including the price of my mx-3 as i'm sure any of these others have done.. for 20 - 30 grand you'd have one freaking amazing mx3 that should blow most other cars out of the water
Have you seen this guys parts list? Don't get me wrong, it's impressive and all. I just couldn't fathom spending that much to upgrade my MX3. It's just not worth it to me. That car, despite best efforts, looks like it's a hair away from becoming completely un-streetable. I could pull a 12 second pass in a lightly modded STI and drive it outta the track like nothing ever happened. Oh, and is it just me, or is his exhaust sitting like an inch off the ground. Guess it won't be lowered with those coilovers.
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mazdubber wrote:
Have you seen this guys parts list? Don't get me wrong, it's impressive and all. I just couldn't fathom spending that much to upgrade my MX3. It's just not worth it to me. That car, despite best efforts, looks like it's a hair away from becoming completely un-streetable. I could pull a 12 second pass in a lightly modded STI and drive it outta the track like nothing ever happened. Oh, and is it just me, or is his exhaust sitting like an inch off the ground. Guess it won't be lowered with those coilovers.
Yeah I guess you could do that with a lightly modded STi... but then you would look like and be like every other sheep in the world and take the easy way out.


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Agreed.. Josh deserves mad props not only for going where no one else has.. but for doing it RIGHT.

As for me and my ideal suspension? One that doesnt cost anything and was installed by someone else ;) LOL

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hey I do happen to drive a 12 second STI and I can tell you it was alot more than $30,000 to purchase the car and get it into the 12's......
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mazdubber wrote:
projectmx wrote:who were you posting that to? a wrx sti is almost 30 grand or more isn't it? i could do an awd and bp swap with the most expensive bolt on after market suspension available for the swap and still pay way less than that including the price of my mx-3 as i'm sure any of these others have done.. for 20 - 30 grand you'd have one freaking amazing mx3 that should blow most other cars out of the water
Have you seen this guys parts list? Don't get me wrong, it's impressive and all. I just couldn't fathom spending that much to upgrade my MX3. It's just not worth it to me. That car, despite best efforts, looks like it's a hair away from becoming completely un-streetable. I could pull a 12 second pass in a lightly modded STI and drive it outta the track like nothing ever happened. Oh, and is it just me, or is his exhaust sitting like an inch off the ground. Guess it won't be lowered with those coilovers.

you know, your coming off like a d---! ive worked my a-- off to be different. and most of what i have ive gotten cheeper than most get. plus i do all my own work. the reason my exhaust is 4" off the ground is because i had just gotten done the night before (a--), and i hadnt fabbed up a new exhaust yet at that point, and i was just stoked to get it up and running. plus total, with my new motor i have only dumped in maybe 12K in the past 4 years (that includes a ATX to MTX swap, 2 fseries trans, and a G series swap). plus it only cost me a total of UNDER 1500 bucks for my AWD swap. so before you go spouting off like a d--- think again. plus i dont know too many other 1.6L MX-3's that can beat a 04' Cobra from start to top end.

FYI: a Base model STI is 32.995 USD MSRP. so with the price of my car i paid 4 years ago, plus all my goodies im still 13k less than a Base STI, and im almost as fast.

the whole point of owning the car is knowing your not going to get what you put into it Back out of it. the reason to put all of this in the car, is so im not the same as every Tom, d---, and Harry. Just a question....... Do you know how much it costs to build a race car??? the car is going to be used mostly for AUTOX and some Drag racing. and finally there are alot more people on this forum that have dumped a hell of alot more into their MX-3 than I have.


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Josh wrote:
mazdubber wrote:
projectmx wrote:who were you posting that to? a wrx sti is almost 30 grand or more isn't it? i could do an awd and bp swap with the most expensive bolt on after market suspension available for the swap and still pay way less than that including the price of my mx-3 as i'm sure any of these others have done.. for 20 - 30 grand you'd have one freaking amazing mx3 that should blow most other cars out of the water
Have you seen this guys parts list? Don't get me wrong, it's impressive and all. I just couldn't fathom spending that much to upgrade my MX3. It's just not worth it to me. That car, despite best efforts, looks like it's a hair away from becoming completely un-streetable. I could pull a 12 second pass in a lightly modded STI and drive it outta the track like nothing ever happened. Oh, and is it just me, or is his exhaust sitting like an inch off the ground. Guess it won't be lowered with those coilovers.

you know, your coming off like a d---! ive worked my a-- off to be different. and most of what i have ive gotten cheeper than most get. plus i do all my own work. the reason my exhaust is 4" off the ground is because i had just gotten done the night before (a--), and i hadnt fabbed up a new exhaust yet at that point, and i was just stoked to get it up and running. plus total, with my new motor i have only dumped in maybe 12K in the past 4 years (that includes a ATX to MTX swap, 2 fseries trans, and a G series swap). plus it only cost me a total of UNDER 1500 bucks for my AWD swap. so before you go spouting off like a d--- think again. plus i dont know too many other 1.6L MX-3's that can beat a 04' Cobra from start to top end.

FYI: a Base model STI is 32.995 USD MSRP. so with the price of my car i paid 4 years ago, plus all my goodies im still 13k less than a Base STI, and im almost as fast.

the whole point of owning the car is knowing your not going to get what you put into it Back out of it. the reason to put all of this in the car, is so im not the same as every Tom, d---, and Harry. Just a question....... Do you know how much it costs to build a race car??? the car is going to be used mostly for AUTOX and some Drag racing. and finally there are alot more people on this forum that have dumped a hell of alot more into their MX-3 than I have.


I hate sheep too!

Ya, hate people with small weiners... that drive AWD MX-3's.....


































j/k :P But seriously, mazdubber do you have a brian? I Personally know someone that drives a 12 sec STI and how do you come to say you can Do 12 secs in an sti and not even know it "lightly" modded?? I have watched 3 STis blow stock trannies doing 12 sec pulls, you know why? Cause they max out their trannies, and honestly, Josh has put nowhere near that much into his car. He has probably put more like $10k into his car and his has done so many things to it he didn't have to (cause everything changed when he went AWD) but he learned stuff, and he learned about the car. I don't know why, but my MX-3 is a solid 13 sec car and I have only spent $5k on it, including buying it. So to say stuff like that is crap.
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It's all about being unique for most... to each his own.

I think it's also about the satisfaction of doing something yourself... you become more appreciative when you drive you car.

I can't wait to finish building my BP... I wanna see what I get without turbo, and then it's DISCO POTATO TIME!
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BuGS wrote:
Josh wrote:
mazdubber wrote: Have you seen this guys parts list? Don't get me wrong, it's impressive and all. I just couldn't fathom spending that much to upgrade my MX3. It's just not worth it to me. That car, despite best efforts, looks like it's a hair away from becoming completely un-streetable. I could pull a 12 second pass in a lightly modded STI and drive it outta the track like nothing ever happened. Oh, and is it just me, or is his exhaust sitting like an inch off the ground. Guess it won't be lowered with those coilovers.

you know, your coming off like a d---! ive worked my a-- off to be different. and most of what i have ive gotten cheeper than most get. plus i do all my own work. the reason my exhaust is 4" off the ground is because i had just gotten done the night before (a--), and i hadnt fabbed up a new exhaust yet at that point, and i was just stoked to get it up and running. plus total, with my new motor i have only dumped in maybe 12K in the past 4 years (that includes a ATX to MTX swap, 2 fseries trans, and a G series swap). plus it only cost me a total of UNDER 1500 bucks for my AWD swap. so before you go spouting off like a d--- think again. plus i dont know too many other 1.6L MX-3's that can beat a 04' Cobra from start to top end.

FYI: a Base model STI is 32.995 USD MSRP. so with the price of my car i paid 4 years ago, plus all my goodies im still 13k less than a Base STI, and im almost as fast.

the whole point of owning the car is knowing your not going to get what you put into it Back out of it. the reason to put all of this in the car, is so im not the same as every Tom, d---, and Harry. Just a question....... Do you know how much it costs to build a race car??? the car is going to be used mostly for AUTOX and some Drag racing. and finally there are alot more people on this forum that have dumped a hell of alot more into their MX-3 than I have.


I hate sheep too!

Ya, hate people with small weiners... that drive AWD MX-3's.....


































j/k :P But seriously, mazdubber do you have a brian? I Personally know someone that drives a 12 sec STI and how do you come to say you can Do 12 secs in an sti and not even know it "lightly" modded?? I have watched 3 STis blow stock trannies doing 12 sec pulls, you know why? Cause they max out their trannies, and honestly, Josh has put nowhere near that much into his car. He has probably put more like $10k into his car and his has done so many things to it he didn't have to (cause everything changed when he went AWD) but he learned stuff, and he learned about the car. I don't know why, but my MX-3 is a solid 13 sec car and I have only spent $5k on it, including buying it. So to say stuff like that is crap.

yeah that tends to happen if you don't know how to drive.... I have seen many sti's into the 11's with a stock tranny..... usually it is the diffs that break and that usually won't happen untill over 600WHP..... now WRXs on the other hand, their trannys blow like our ATXs.....
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Josh wrote:
mazdubber wrote:
projectmx wrote:who were you posting that to? a wrx sti is almost 30 grand or more isn't it? i could do an awd and bp swap with the most expensive bolt on after market suspension available for the swap and still pay way less than that including the price of my mx-3 as i'm sure any of these others have done.. for 20 - 30 grand you'd have one freaking amazing mx3 that should blow most other cars out of the water
Have you seen this guys parts list? Don't get me wrong, it's impressive and all. I just couldn't fathom spending that much to upgrade my MX3. It's just not worth it to me. That car, despite best efforts, looks like it's a hair away from becoming completely un-streetable. I could pull a 12 second pass in a lightly modded STI and drive it outta the track like nothing ever happened. Oh, and is it just me, or is his exhaust sitting like an inch off the ground. Guess it won't be lowered with those coilovers.

you know, your coming off like a d---! ive worked my a-- off to be different. and most of what i have ive gotten cheeper than most get. plus i do all my own work. the reason my exhaust is 4" off the ground is because i had just gotten done the night before (a--), and i hadnt fabbed up a new exhaust yet at that point, and i was just stoked to get it up and running. plus total, with my new motor i have only dumped in maybe 12K in the past 4 years (that includes a ATX to MTX swap, 2 fseries trans, and a G series swap). plus it only cost me a total of UNDER 1500 bucks for my AWD swap. so before you go spouting off like a d--- think again. plus i dont know too many other 1.6L MX-3's that can beat a 04' Cobra from start to top end.

FYI: a Base model STI is 32.995 USD MSRP. so with the price of my car i paid 4 years ago, plus all my goodies im still 13k less than a Base STI, and im almost as fast.

the whole point of owning the car is knowing your not going to get what you put into it Back out of it. the reason to put all of this in the car, is so im not the same as every Tom, d---, and Harry. Just a question....... Do you know how much it costs to build a race car??? the car is going to be used mostly for AUTOX and some Drag racing. and finally there are alot more people on this forum that have dumped a hell of alot more into their MX-3 than I have.


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LOL...I can tell you want to be unique. You need to learn that if you want to be unique you might get some critisism. It's quite obvious that you've put a lot of time into your setup and like I said, it is impressive. You are the one coming off like an a--.

FYI: The STI has been on the market in NA for 3 years, hmm, you think I could get one a bit cheaper then that 33K MSRP? I just used the car as an example, there are many others I don't care to bring up.

Yes I DO know how much it costs to build a race car. In fact, I have BUILT numerous. From Rally and Road Racing cars when I was in highschool to Formula 2000's when I went to the Bridgestone Racing Academy. So I'm not exactly new to this. I must be right about how unstreetable it is if you mention building a race car. I was under the impression that you actually might want to drive this on the streets. Now I know different. I wasn't trying to be as a-- but if it came off that way to you I apologise. But you need to relax and stop taking stuff so personal.
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