Unimpressive KLZE mx-3 track times?

mx3man83 · Post by **mx3man83** » October 1st, 2003, 8:46 pm

Need4speed and bonestockkid both have a 2.5(I know need4speed has a klze, not sure of bone stockkid), but they have both posted quarter mile times of 15.5 or in that area? I've been around this board for a couple years and ive always been under the impression that klze mx-3's run anywhere between low to high 14's, not mid 15's. What's up with this? I'm concerned because I'm going to be doing a swap within the next month but I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. Enlighten me please.

[ October 01, 2003, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: mx3man83 ]

torpedan · Post by **torpedan** » October 1st, 2003, 8:52 pm

some of the problems are cause by installation and shipping..

like one person whos throttle cable was out of adjust ment and coulndt go wide open.

Nd4SpdSe · Post by **Nd4SpdSe** » October 1st, 2003, 9:20 pm

My theories why i cant get to 14's

-Stock Intake
-Stock Exaust
-Worn Stock Suspension with bad rear struts
-All-Seasons on Stock mags
-The syncro's are going in 3rd and 5th gear or my clutch needs to be adjusted, so i get a bit of grind on those gears, and shifting is hard and clunky.
-Cayuga Track seems slippery
-I get a slighy backfire when i idle, an o2 sensor may be going
-Nerviousness and lack of Experience

I Also did some runs last week with jsut downpipe and stock cat (exaust was rusting and broke so i took it off until i get a 2.5" done next week). my best i pulled was a 15.5, and it was slick from a light drizzle and rain.

What is funny is that on my best run a few weeks ago, my 15.4, i reached the end of the track just getting into the redline on 4th gear, last week, on my 15.5, i hit the end of the track just getting into 5th, betcha is cause of the rain, but doesnt explain why i still managed a 15.5...i think the potential is there, i just need to nail it

Honnestly, even with those times, i still lvoe my KLZE, it kicks soo much arse just daily driving, i wouldnt trade it in the world, im a bit disapointed, but i dont regret it, and i have alot of work to do, to bring down that list of excuses

. One thing i should have done is dragged my old k8, cause i betcha, i wouldnt have done as expected for k8 times either...know what that number would explain alot...

One thing i manage to realist while dragging, is that with the Millenia KLZE, my max torque is at, i believe 4800 rpms, but when dragging, i never get that low in RPM, after i shift at 7000+rpms, my next gear i start somewhere in the 5000-5500rpm range, so im beyond my powerband...performance cams should fix this as well

[ October 01, 2003, 08:36 PM: Message edited by: Nd4SpdSe ]

curtklze · Post by **curtklze** » October 1st, 2003, 11:03 pm

this is what your power will be when you run with no air filter or air box and with a 2.5 inch exhaust. the torque max is at 4700 and drops off at 5700- but you will still have lots of H.P. untill 7000 to keep going down the track, N2o always helps

, the main solution to the falling torque is a set of headders and cams <img src="http://members.rogers.com/curts-klze/images/dyno3.jpg" alt=" - " />

babyblueMX3 · Post by **babyblueMX3** » October 1st, 2003, 11:17 pm

Originally posted by Nd4SpdSe:
last week, on my 15.5, i hit the end of the track just getting into 5th, betcha is cause of the rain, but doesnt explain why i still managed a 15.5...i think the potential is there, i just need to nail it

you shift in 5th on a 1/4 mile:confused2:

aaronthehic · Post by **aaronthehic** » October 1st, 2003, 11:18 pm

sounds like some one would like to buy some ze parts?????

what ecu do u have ?

it is allways better to hold each gear out because of the lost torque of the higher gear

[ October 01, 2003, 10:26 PM: Message edited by: aaron the hic ]

aaronthehic · Post by **aaronthehic** » October 1st, 2003, 11:24 pm

Originally posted by mx3man83:
Need4speed and bonestockkid both have a 2.5(I know need4speed has a klze, not sure of bone stockkid), but they have both posted quarter mile times of 15.5 or in that area? I've been around this board for a couple years and ive always been under the impression that klze mx-3's run anywhere between low to high 14's, not mid 15's. What's up with this? I'm concerned because I'm going to be doing a swap within the next month but I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. Enlighten me please.

what was your best 1/4 mile time? cause u don't know untill u are there racing,so don't pick out some one and say "your slow" it is all set up

the ze ecu alone gives u .5 of a second

Nd4SpdSe · Post by **Nd4SpdSe** » October 1st, 2003, 11:34 pm

Originally posted by babyblueMX3:

Originally posted by Nd4SpdSe:
[qb]you shift in 5th on a 1/4 mile:confused2:

as stupid as it sounds i did, i reved her to 73000rpms on each gear and actually needed to use 5th before i hit the end of the track

i have a ze ecu from lazzyie

[ October 01, 2003, 10:35 PM: Message edited by: Nd4SpdSe ]

lazzyie · Post by **lazzyie** » October 2nd, 2003, 1:01 am

I ran a 14.6 with just my swap and the car stripped, powershifting 1st to 2nd at 7300 rpms and speed shifting every other gear. Then a 16 flat on a bad 02 sensor....

Cars suck....

thebonestockkid · Post by **thebonestockkid** » October 2nd, 2003, 2:37 am

its called 60ft times, if they arent good, your et isnt good, duh lol. i'd love to see your first time when you get the swap done

[ October 02, 2003, 01:42 AM: Message edited by: thebonestockkid ]

mx3man83 · Post by **mx3man83** » October 2nd, 2003, 3:42 pm

Originally posted by aaron the hic:

Originally posted by mx3man83:
Need4speed and bonestockkid both have a 2.5(I know need4speed has a klze, not sure of bone stockkid), but they have both posted quarter mile times of 15.5 or in that area? I've been around this board for a couple years and ive always been under the impression that klze mx-3's run anywhere between low to high 14's, not mid 15's. What's up with this? I'm concerned because I'm going to be doing a swap within the next month but I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. Enlighten me please.
what was your best 1/4 mile time? cause u don't know untill u are there racing,so don't pick out some one and say "your slow" it is all set up

the ze ecu alone gives u .5 of a second

Dang I'm not saying anybody is slow I'm just wondering what kind of factors are causing these klze times to be slower than others. Of course many factors come into play when at the strip, I'm just wondering what everybody has, which may explain the not so great times. Chill. This is not to critisize, which i havent done anyway, its to learn.

BucktownMx3 · Post by **BucktownMx3** » October 2nd, 2003, 9:41 pm

bonestock kid, is all u have in ur car is the swapped american kl-de? nothin else or what all do u have to make u car run that quick?

thebonestockkid · Post by **thebonestockkid** » October 2nd, 2003, 9:57 pm

Originally posted by BucktownMx3:
bonestock kid, is all u have in ur car is the swapped american kl-de? nothin else or what all do u have to make u car run that quick?

everything i have is in my sig

nothing special, and believe me man, that is NOT quick, STOCK mx6s/pgts are pulling 15.5s with good 60fts, i just cant drive my car worth crap yet lol.

Gro Harlem · Post by **Gro Harlem** » October 2nd, 2003, 10:20 pm

14.78 at 99. stock intake and stock exhaust, just a KLZE and KLZE ECU w/phnelic spacers installed.

i need to run it again.

Steeb · Post by **Steeb** » October 3rd, 2003, 3:00 am

as stupid as it sounds i did, i reved her to 73000rpms on each gear and actually needed to use 5th before i hit the end of the track

i have a ze ecu from lazzyie

how fast were you going on that one? 7300rpms on which gears while on the 1320??

[ October 03, 2003, 02:02 AM: Message edited by: Steeb ]

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