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OsoSlo z28 · Post by **OsoSlo z28** » August 18th, 2002, 10:58 am

if and when you reach 200-250whp you might have problems with the tranny. torque is actually what kills the tranny, but most people focus on hp goals, so it's easier to relate hp than tq. if you reach 250whp(horse power to the wheels) your torque to the wheels could be around 230-240ft-lbs. i'm not up to par on the tranny strengths. jesse or david would know more about this than me. i'm still learning as well

patapouf · Post by **patapouf** » August 18th, 2002, 4:54 pm

Oh I see! I wont have to worry about that for a little while, since ill be dead broke after a swap. Anyways, thanks for all the help, really appreciated

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OsoSlo z28 · Post by **OsoSlo z28** » August 18th, 2002, 5:23 pm

my personal opinion is if you're not wanting to get a new tranny, just stick with the b6t. if you're willing to go the extra step, get the bpt. if you're going to do it, might as well do it right the first time.

VizualXTC · Post by **VizualXTC** » August 18th, 2002, 6:34 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by cre8v mx3: .....if you're going to do it, might as well do it right the first time.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree with that. Nothing is worth doing if it's not done right. If you want the high HP gains in the end, it would cost you alot more to put the B6T and then swap the BPT in later. YOu can go to a junkyard and get the pretege tranny for under $200. I'm sure if you can do the swap yourself, then the cost could be under $1500.

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » August 18th, 2002, 9:34 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by VizualXTC: I agree with that. Nothing is worth doing if it's not done right. If you want the high HP gains in the end, it would cost you alot more to put the B6T and then swap the BPT in later. YOu can go to a junkyard and get the pretege tranny for under $200. I'm sure if you can do the swap yourself, then the cost could be under $1500.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Protege trannies are a bit more expensive than 200 bucks. Id figure on ~350 if you want one in decent shape.

aznwithamx3 · Post by **aznwithamx3** » August 18th, 2002, 11:44 pm

is there a tranny that can go with the bpt that can handle about than 300whp?

VizualXTC · Post by **VizualXTC** » August 19th, 2002, 12:39 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS: Protege trannies are a bit more expensive than 200 bucks. Id figure on ~350 if you want one in decent shape.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>From a junkyard? Here you can get any tranny for $200, and turbo for $50, any engine for $350, ect. It's not dependant on the year, make, model or anything like that.

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » August 19th, 2002, 1:16 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by VizualXTC: From a junkyard? Here you can get any tranny for $200, and turbo for $50, any engine for $350, ect. It's not dependant on the year, make, model or anything like that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hmmm, ok...not what ive seen... is this at a u-pull-it yard??IIRC, David got his for ~225 from a special deal at CS...and i knew the owner of the junkyard for mine that i got for 200.

VizualXTC · Post by **VizualXTC** » August 19th, 2002, 4:22 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS: Hmmm, ok...not what ive seen... is this at a u-pull-it yard??IIRC, David got his for ~225 from a special deal at CS...and i knew the owner of the junkyard for mine that i got for 200.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes it's at a pick and pull yard.

OsoSlo z28 · Post by **OsoSlo z28** » August 19th, 2002, 8:59 am

the cheapest i found mine was about 400 at any type of yard from here to texas. but the condition and demand has a lot to do with it.

patapouf · Post by **patapouf** » August 19th, 2002, 9:48 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by VizualXTC: I agree with that. Nothing is worth doing if it's not done right. If you want the high HP gains in the end, it would cost you alot more to put the B6T and then swap the BPT in later. YOu can go to a junkyard and get the pretege tranny for under $200. I'm sure if you can do the swap yourself, then the cost could be under $1500.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>There is no way in hell I can do the swap on my own! I wish I could but im no mechanic!This is what corksport told me what i needed for the swap:''The BPT swap is a bolt in with the correct parts. Parts list 90-94 Protege LX transmission, motor mounts, brackets, axles, flywheel. 90-94 Protege LX clutch Intercooler (custom or used from another car) Blow off valve Intercooler piping, silicone hose piece, hose clamps Larger fuel pump either new or one used from a turbo RX7 Japanese BPT ECU and wiring, or Reprogrammed stock ECU, or a Apex Super AFC The engine and transmission bolt together with the protege flywheel and clutch. The whole assembly bolts into the car with no cutting or welding.Running intercooler piping is the most difficult part of the entire swap because there is no easy access around the radiator. We usually run the piping around the passenger side and back through the drivers side below the headlights.The stock distributor work since the engine firing order is the same. You will want to use your stock engine wiring unless you get a BPT wiring loom and ECU. ''So by gettin all of this, from what I can understand, the swap would barely cost 2000$? (plus labor)

OsoSlo z28 · Post by **OsoSlo z28** » August 19th, 2002, 11:14 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by patapouf: There is no way in hell I can do the swap on my own! I wish I could but im no mechanic!This is what corksport told me what i needed for the swap:''The BPT swap is a bolt in with the correct parts. Parts list 90-94 Protege LX transmission, motor mounts, brackets, axles, flywheel. 90-94 Protege LX clutch Intercooler (custom or used from another car) Blow off valve Intercooler piping, silicone hose piece, hose clamps Larger fuel pump either new or one used from a turbo RX7 Japanese BPT ECU and wiring, or Reprogrammed stock ECU, or a Apex Super AFC........So by gettin all of this, from what I can understand, the swap would barely cost 2000$? (plus labor)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>have you priced anything in that list? average prices: bpt:990 tranny:400 cv axles:150 for both jack-shaft:40 flywheel:40 brackets:15 clutch:380 i/c:50-200depending on size/condition bov:75-200depending on type/condition i/c piping:150 rx7 fuel pump:100 reprogrammed ecu:270 or s-afc:250-300this is all w/o labor(except for the i/c piping). there are other things you're going to need...vac hoses, belts, oil and filter, fuel filter, spark plugs, etc. so there's some more research to go into this. don't forget..there's always unexpected expenses when doing this type of project.

patapouf · Post by **patapouf** » August 22nd, 2002, 6:26 pm

Screw it! over 4000$cdn! I cant afford that! (sigh)

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