Supercharging the KLZE

Sean Mandell · Post by **Sean Mandell** » July 12th, 2002, 3:15 pm

I want to SC the klze but would 5-6 pounds be to much for the klze? I don't want to be sourcing out klze's all the time. Obviously assume that my ignition system is upgraded along with fuel system, front mount intercooler, blowoff valve, radiator and fans, reprogramed ecu, headers and 2.5" exhaust. Also keep in mind that I want the car as a reliable daily driver.

monty73741 · Post by **monty73741** » July 12th, 2002, 6:03 pm

did you contact jeff abrams <A HREF="http://www.mazadamanaic.com" TARGET=_blank>www.mazadamanaic.com</A> he has done it and has a shortened tuturial jason

Post by **Custommx3** » July 12th, 2002, 6:26 pm

Jeff doesnt have a KLZE he has a KL.

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » July 12th, 2002, 6:34 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by nvrsrndr: I want to SC the klze but would 5-6 pounds be to much for the klze? I don't want to be sourcing out klze's all the time. Obviously assume that my ignition system is upgraded along with fuel system, front mount intercooler, blowoff valve, radiator and fans, reprogramed ecu, headers and 2.5" exhaust. Also keep in mind that I want the car as a reliable daily driver.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> 2.5" exhaust is FAR TOO SMALL. 3" would still be small. front mount? If youre thinking about a centrifugal SC, they are worthless....laggy and inefficient. Youre going to be near the edge of the stock cast rods, IMO, although it'll depend on your tuning. Lastly, how do you plan on packageing it? Not much room.

Sean Mandell · Post by **Sean Mandell** » July 13th, 2002, 3:32 pm

well I intended on the same set up as TKT has on his site. But his was on a ford probe gt and I think the probe has more room to work with. But I am in the midst of an 89 323 1.8 Turbo and it is very time consuming but may have it running by end of summer. Any thing is posible u just have to be the type that enjoys a challange. I am not running a/c on my mx-3 so that room will be utilized. Protege-------- do you think that 3" high flow resonator would keep the beast quiet? I am intent on the sleeper idea so if i could have a 3" full race exhaust with the res and still be relitively quiet then I'm doin it.

ProtegeSTS · Post by **ProtegeSTS** » July 13th, 2002, 6:46 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by nvrsrndr: well I intended on the same set up as TKT has on his site. But his was on a ford probe gt and I think the probe has more room to work with. But I am in the midst of an 89 323 1.8 Turbo and it is very time consuming but may have it running by end of summer. Any thing is posible u just have to be the type that enjoys a challange. I am not running a/c on my mx-3 so that room will be utilized. Protege-------- do you think that 3" high flow resonator would keep the beast quiet? I am intent on the sleeper idea so if i could have a 3" full race exhaust with the res and still be relitively quiet then I'm doin it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hmmm, id use at least 2 resonators and possibly 2 mufflers if you want to keep it really quiet. You dont want to sacrifice performance.

MX3RS · Post by **MX3RS** » July 14th, 2002, 3:00 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by ProtegeSTS: 2.5" exhaust is FAR TOO SMALL. 3" would still be small.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Dude you are nuts.....2.5" would be fine especially since the exhaust doesn't have as much to do with a SC system as it does with a Turbo system. 3" would be way overkill no matter what, it would just be a waste of money.

David Coleman · Post by **David Coleman** » July 14th, 2002, 9:54 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MX3RS: Dude you are nuts.....2.5" would be fine especially since the exhaust doesn't have as much to do with a SC system as it does with a Turbo system. 3" would be way overkill no matter what, it would just be a waste of money.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>3" would be about right for a 2.5L High compression motor under boost. We're not talking small Mitsu stuff here...153cid is like adding another cylinder to a 4G63. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]

Sean Mandell · Post by **Sean Mandell** » July 14th, 2002, 2:01 pm

Protege--------- I think i'll go with one res first. I think 2 would create to much backpressure. I also think that the v6 from mazda has a quiet and very smooth engine and with quality suspension makes it a very comfortable ride at high speeds. my bodys crx frankinstein turbo (b20 crv bottom end and b18 gsr head) is one crazy ride but when you drive something like that you just point and pray. And on the highway I have to almost scream to say something.

MX3RS · Post by **MX3RS** » July 14th, 2002, 2:04 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by David Coleman: 3" would be about right for a 2.5L High compression motor under boost. We're not talking small Mitsu stuff here...153cid is like adding another cylinder to a 4G63. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I dont have a 4G63 that would be too small, I have a 2.6L G54BT engine, just a little bigger than the KL motor. I know what I am talking about and there is no reason to have 3" exhaust on a supercharged car, totally overkill

Stevech_2001 · Post by **Stevech_2001** » July 14th, 2002, 4:50 pm

good old crvtec....and it's turbocharged....

David Coleman · Post by **David Coleman** » July 14th, 2002, 9:10 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by MX3RS: I dont have a 4G63 that would be too small, I have a 2.6L G54BT engine, just a little bigger than the KL motor. I know what I am talking about and there is no reason to have 3" exhaust on a supercharged car, totally overkill<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Well, the KL heads and manifolds flow in the mid to high 90's for Ev, which affects greatly how much exhaust you need. A supercharged KLZE @ the stock injectors' limit is going to be around 300bhp, which is in the right area for a 3" exhaust. Turbos and superchargers both flow alot of air and need to push it out the tail pipe. Of course, it depends on what SC [Vortech, Roots, etc], desired power curve, and boost level.

MX3RS · Post by **MX3RS** » July 14th, 2002, 11:30 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by David Coleman: Well, the KL heads and manifolds flow in the mid to high 90's for Ev, which affects greatly how much exhaust you need. A supercharged KLZE @ the stock injectors' limit is going to be around 300bhp, which is in the right area for a 3" exhaust. Turbos and superchargers both flow alot of air and need to push it out the tail pipe. Of course, it depends on what SC [Vortech, Roots, etc], desired power curve, and boost level.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Ahh so true. What is the difference in flow between the ZE heads and the stock KL heads? Just a little curious

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