Nitrous Oxide Limits

[VizualXTC]

What is the MAX boost a K8, KL_03, and a KL_ZE can take? What inner-engine mods have to be done? (i.e. stiffer rods, stronger crank, etc.) How hard would it be for me to install a NOS Fogger system on my ride?

[David Coleman]

I saw a KLZE with a 125 direct port fogger system do a burnout through 3rd. He was spraying. Many have had no problems running upwards of 80hp shots on 2.5L's...I'd say 65 is about as much as I'd feel comfortable running on a K8, due to longer, thinner rods. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]

[VizualXTC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Coleman:<BR><STRONG>I saw a KLZE with a 125 direct port fogger system do a burnout through 3rd. He was spraying. Many have had no problems running upwards of 80hp shots on 2.5L's...I'd say 65 is about as much as I'd feel comfortable running on a K8, due to longer, thinner rods. [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>did the ZE have any internal work done on it? do you know? What can the 03 handle?

[David Coleman]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VizualXTC:<BR><STRONG><P>did the ZE have any internal work done on it? do you know? What can the 03 handle?</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No, Yes, probably at least what that ZE was running, cause they have the same rods and crank and piston skirt.

[Bobby Digital]

I've heard the guys at Probetalk say that you can't run much more than 75 or 85 shot with a dry setup. I guess a fogger could be set to run 125, but I'd be afraid of damage to internals at that high of a shot.

[ProtegeSTS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bobby Digital:<BR><STRONG>I've heard the guys at Probetalk say that you can't run much more than 75 or 85 shot with a dry setup. I guess a fogger could be set to run 125, but I'd be afraid of damage to internals at that high of a shot.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I would never suggest running anything over a 50 shot dry. I mean, you can, but why risk it? Just go wet and be safe.

[stevwhit17]

The O3 can handle a little more boost than the ZE, due to the ZE's higher compression. I still wouldnt put more than 75 shot dry to either one, but I would feel a bit better about it on the O3. Dunno about this K8.

[ProtegeSTS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stevwhit17:<BR><STRONG>The O3 can handle a little more boost than the ZE, due to the ZE's higher compression. I still wouldnt put more than 75 shot dry to either one, but I would feel a bit better about it on the O3. Dunno about this K8.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>why would you run a dry shot that big? Personally, anything over 50 and i would definately go with a wet system, just to make sure i dont get a lean-out problem which leads to a rod through the block or something.

[stevwhit17]

excellent point, maybe I should rephrase. I wouldnt put more than a 75 shot thru it no matter what system you use. I most liekly wouldnt use nitrous at all anyways. I am trying to find a decent SC system now for the Neon, but to no avail. Maybe ill have to get a PT Cruiser system and modify it a bit.

[OsoSlo z28]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> originally posted by stevwhit17<BR> <B>I am trying to find a decent SC system now for the Neon</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>when building the srt, dodge used a eaton m45, check and see if they have an application for your car.

[stevwhit17]

Ive been searching the net all day and havent come up with any commercially available kits for the Neon. There are quite a few for the cruiser which utilizes most of the Neon for its frame/drivetrain, but none for the Neon. I would imagine that since the Neon and PT have the same engine that the kits would be compatible, but the kits that say Whipple makes won't fit under my hood. I did find a company dalled Hahn Racecraft that has Turbo kits that make about 200-225 hp on only 5-7 psi for only 2700 bux. Not too shabby. They have also produced the worlds fastest Neon, it runs a mid 10, and is a daily driver. Maybe I should just go turbo the damn thing. Decisions [img]shrug.gif"%20border="0[/img]

[93mxrgs]

dude go with the hahn set up, the place in chicago i assume is what u mean, theres a couple of eclipses runnin around here that have been built by them and those things are damn near untouchble on the street, they;re friggin wicked, that neon was the one ont he cover of hotrod, that thing is NUTZ!!!, and they were using a semi stock tranny, hah hah 10sec in a neon is a LOT faster than i wanna go in a FWD, good luck, and go with hahn, everyone i've talked to around here that has the eclipses are EXTREMLY please with the service they recieved.

[ProtegeSTS]

Hahn does have a pretty good reputation about turboing the neon and non-turbo eclipses. But choose your mode of FI not for availability, but rather by what you want out of it. <P>There are companys that will build custom supercharger kits out there. Check out Rimmer if you still want a SC. Also a M45 i just a size of a blower made by Eaton. 45 cubic inch blower. Its the same size they use for all the civics. <P>Good luck in your quest. You really should try autocrossing, as neons are a great car, and the R/T especially. One of the few cars that I actually fear in STS

[stevwhit17]

You actually fear the R/T in the autocross? Boy, theyd really have to do some hardening the steering up for my tastes. I feel like its a bit numb, Decent steering response, but it just doesnt have the reflexes that i want. But i will agree that it takes a lot to make the tires lose grip. That and its pretty decent at shooting out of hard corners. I would autocross, but i cant afford all those tires.

[ProtegeSTS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by stevwhit17:<BR><STRONG>You actually fear the R/T in the autocross? Boy, theyd really have to do some hardening the steering up for my tastes. I feel like its a bit numb, Decent steering response, but it just doesnt have the reflexes that i want. But i will agree that it takes a lot to make the tires lose grip. That and its pretty decent at shooting out of hard corners. I would autocross, but i cant afford all those tires.</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You have no idea what you have, do you?<P>Neon ACRs and R/Ts have dominated SCCA for years now. They are the best FWD non-lsd car out there for autocross competition.<P>And i only went through 1 set of tires this year, so thats 250 bucks.