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oil pump on KLDE need changing?

Posted: December 3rd, 2012, 12:21 pm
by mikeetown
Just wondering,

I got a klde and before i swap the notorious into my mx3, i want to change what necessary . Im changing the valve cover baskets, out pan gasket , timing belt, water pump, and the other big one the OIL PUMP. The motor i got is from Japan and in immaculate condition. Looks like there is 20,0000 km on the motor or it was engine flushed in Japan 15 yeArs ago Haha. Anyway, ill post pics of under the cam covers when i get home.

Question: how reliable is the OIL PUMP and can i get away without changing it cause i don't have an impact air gun strong enough to remove the bolt on the harmonic balancer ????

I bought the OIL PUMP already. But Im having a pitching time Haha.

Re: oil pump on KLDE need changing?

Posted: December 3rd, 2012, 12:23 pm
by mikeetown
And by the way, sorry for dumbass word mistakes because f--- YOU AUTO CORRECT on cell phone.

Re: oil pump on KLDE need changing?

Posted: December 3rd, 2012, 1:33 pm
by atx_mx3
mikeetown wrote:Just wondering,

I got a klde and before i swap the notorious into my mx3, i want to change what necessary . Im changing the valve cover baskets, out pan gasket , timing belt, water pump, and the other big one the OIL PUMP. The motor i got is from Japan and in immaculate condition. Looks like there is 20,0000 km on the motor or it was engine flushed in Japan 15 yeArs ago Haha. Anyway, ill post pics of under the cam covers when i get home.

Question: how reliable is the OIL PUMP and can i get away without changing it cause i don't have an impact air gun strong enough to remove the bolt on the harmonic balancer ????

I bought the OIL PUMP already. But Im having a pitching time Haha.
If you have any doubt, change it. If you cant get the crank pulley off, put it in the car, start it and make sure your oil pressure switch is plugged in. It will tell you if the pump is bad. If it is, it can still be done when its in the car....just not as easy.

Re: oil pump on KLDE need changing?

Posted: December 3rd, 2012, 5:42 pm
by MrMazda92
Stick a socket on the bolt for your crank pulley, attach a breaker bar, pin the breaker to the ground and blip the starter. DO NOT RUN THE ENGINE, only blip it until it breaks it free. An impact gun can't touch that. :lol:

On a side note, DON'T USE AN OILPAN GASKET!!! Use a sealant, most people on PT recommend "Hondabond", it's supposed to be pretty amazing stuff. You can get it for relatively cheap at a Honduh dealership.

Re: oil pump on KLDE need changing?

Posted: December 3rd, 2012, 6:16 pm
by Sleeper6
mikeetown wrote:
I bought the OIL PUMP already. But Im having a pitching time Haha.
To me thats kinda like having a winning lotto ticket and saying nah, i dont need to cash that in.

Anywho your going to want to take off the crank pulley bolt for your harmonic balancer anyways to change your timing belt, would be foolish not too considering what you already have, If not I did one in my drive after a tow home last winter so all in all they are not that hard to change.

Re: oil pump on KLDE need changing?

Posted: December 4th, 2012, 3:44 am
by mikeetown
Sleeper6 wrote:
mikeetown wrote:
I bought the OIL PUMP already. But Im having a pitching time Haha.
To me thats kinda like having a winning lotto ticket and saying nah, i dont need to cash that in.

Anywho your going to want to take off the crank pulley bolt for your harmonic balancer anyways to change your timing belt, would be foolish not too considering what you already have, If not I did one in my drive after a tow home last winter so all in all they are not that hard to change.

lol you are right. i guess i totally forgot about that Haha s---.

Re: oil pump on KLDE need changing?

Posted: December 4th, 2012, 1:08 pm
by davmac
Unless you are rebuilding this engine don’t change the oil pump. An OEM pump is recommended if you do replace it. Oil pumps are not failure prone and usually last the life of the engine. No one would change their oil pump just because they were changing the timing belt and components.

Really it sounds like you have a good used engine. Return the oil pump and add a real oil gauge if you must worry about oil pressure.

Since engine is outside the car being prepped for a swap figure out a way to jam the flywheel so it does not move while you torque the crankshaft bolt off. Without air tools you could remove the transmission inspection plate or starter and jam the flywheel with a screwdriver or chisel. And don’t forget that you can simulate an air impact wrench with a hammer and a long breaker bar.

Re: oil pump on KLDE need changing?

Posted: December 4th, 2012, 7:25 pm
by SuperK
Remember to change the valve stem seals. They have a tendency to dry up and start rotting without proper use.

I would recommend renting a buddy to get that bolt off, so he can use whatever apparatus needed to hold the flywheel steady while you yam on that bolt.

Re: oil pump on KLDE need changing?

Posted: December 17th, 2012, 10:41 pm
by mikeetown
davmac wrote:Unless you are rebuilding this engine don’t change the oil pump. An OEM pump is recommended if you do replace it. Oil pumps are not failure prone and usually last the life of the engine. No one would change their oil pump just because they were changing the timing belt and components.

Really it sounds like you have a good used engine. Return the oil pump and add a real oil gauge if you must worry about oil pressure.

Since engine is outside the car being prepped for a swap figure out a way to jam the flywheel so it does not move while you torque the crankshaft bolt off. Without air tools you could remove the transmission inspection plate or starter and jam the flywheel with a screwdriver or chisel. And don’t forget that you can simulate an air impact wrench with a hammer and a long breaker bar.
hmmmm. I'm just changing it cause I know a dude with an mx6 that had his KLZE oil pump fail and i didnt want that to happen to me......

also happened to my friend shawns boosted eagle talon 4g63 motor.

also, my 88 chevy haha. and with only 137,000km on it.

anyway....... its done