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Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 1:56 am
by 93vtecklr
Okay so I'm about to pick up my girl for a night on the town, warm up the car cause it's cold as two week old dog ish.......and the car shuts itself off about ten minutes later. Lights, heater, stereo on. Heat is on full blast and the interior is scorching. By the time I get the car to start again it's squeeling from the belts and the alt is smoking, i immediately shut it off. I cleaned up some grounds, and checked all fuses and fluid levels. The car starts great but the heater is only blowing cold air. The power steering isn't working and the car is overheating. The alty is running strong and running all accessories with no light fade with the sub goin. I would like to know what could be going wrong with the PS and the overheating issue. All the coolant seems to be in the overflow, and won't cycle. I am wondering what the likelihood is of the water and ps pump going at the same time. All components are less than one year old. They were all brought new, and the belts were all replaced too, nothing is leaking or being burned. Thank you for your time.

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 2:12 am
by _-Night-Shade-_
Maybe something jammed it hard enough to stop the engine and then when you went to start it would explain the belt squeek? Why would the alty smoke though... and why would the 2 pumps die... definitely a weird one mate.

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 2:14 am
by 93vtecklr
I know right? I checked everything i could think of, I may be overlooking something though. My girl just came back from ontario so i really wanted to see her, maybe i should just take the sunbird.....

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 2:18 am
by PoisonDrop
I am wondering what the likelihood is of the water and ps pump going at the same time.
If that's the case, you are one unlucky dude...

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 2:21 am
by _-Night-Shade-_
w00t Ontario!

Okay here's a crazy theory: something gets into the alty causing it to jam, the alty stops providing power which causes the engine to stop, and then when you try to start it again the belt slips overtop the jammed alty and causes the squeal. Eventually gets unjammed...

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 2:28 am
by 93vtecklr
I am just worried about starting the car again until i find out why its over heating and the power steering isn't working.......

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 2:40 am
by _-Night-Shade-_
You're gonna have to start it again, just let it cool down. When you do start it get someone to turn the steering wheel while looking at the PS pulley, if the pump is working it'll clutch the pulley and it will be harder to spin - you can usually observe this for a split second and the idle usually drops for that split second.

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 4:53 am
by 93vtecklr
The fucked up thing is that now it's hunting too. Between one and two thousand rpm while cold. FML batman.

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 4:59 am
by solo_ryder
The PS and the WP run off the same belt.. I am gonna say that the PS bely jumped and jammed the alt belt and caused it to smoke abit. You car is overheating because the WP is not turning neither is the PS pump because the belt is gone, broken or lodged weird. Pulley could also have fallen off. Check it out.

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 5:37 am
by fowljesse
Yeah, check your belt, and its amount of play. If it looks and feels fine, have someone start the car while you watch the pulleys. Your car can run for a while, even without the belt on. It would probably die of lack of electricity before it could over heat (depending on how good your battery is).

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 9:14 am
by Ryan
Definately belt. Not weird at all.

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 12:55 pm
by 93vtecklr
I must be an idiot, I went outside to look at it in the light and saw a belt on the ground. Is this an expensive fix?

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 1:54 pm
by pattheriault
around 30$ for a new belt id say... and like a 20 min fix..

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 3:53 pm
by mitmaks
I would say one of your pulleys jammed and made it smoke. One of pulley bearings might've seized.

Re: Here's a weird one for ya...

Posted: January 2nd, 2010, 4:50 pm
by Flyer
Definately the belt. I'm surprised NightShade didn't pick up on it right away...I only called to b---- about the loss of power steering and waterpump to him only like five times when it happened to me...