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This is bad...

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I've been runnin the KLZE for about 3 weeks now, and already I'm yearning for something more.

1st and 2nd disappear in a few short seconds, but after that... 3rd.. 4th.. it's strong, but ... well, can't I make smoke in 3rd? :mrgreen:

I'm going to hit up a custom exhaust shop to get a 2.5" all the way back with a high-flow cat (still running stock after the headers). But, then what?
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Nightfire.. sorry to get kinda off topic... but you just made me cream myself. Please tell more about it...

1st and 2nd go by quick???
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and I can barely chirp seccond at 6K RPM popping the clutch on pee wet roads....
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I know the feeling, nightfire. The next step is LSD. You will put more power to the ground. Going with more power will just spin the tires more. If you don't have suspension done, and filled motor mounts, that will help put it down, too. Maybe tires can make a difference. Also, technique helps hook-up. Don't just slam it to WOT..
If it's more spinning you want, inflate the tires more.
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lol, at 20psi, my car spins the tires all the way till redline in fourth :)

fifth gear just doesn't have the nuts to do it though :)

it will though when I get the intercooler installed, and the boost turned up :)

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fowljesse wrote:I know the feeling, nightfire. The next step is LSD. You will put more power to the ground. Going with more power will just spin the tires more. If you don't have suspension done, and filled motor mounts, that will help put it down, too. Maybe tires can make a difference. Also, technique helps hook-up. Don't just slam it to WOT..
If it's more spinning you want, inflate the tires more.
Whoa.. holy replies. lol.

I've actually got an LSD transmission that I bought with the KLZE (my tranny was in bad shape). It really freaked me out because I had both wheels off the ground when I was tightening my axle nuts (1st gear, no brake) and it was really hard to turn. I thought something was wrong before I realized it was just the LSD doing its thing.

I'm runnin tokico HPs and eibach's pro kit, with a polyurethane front engine mount. I'm really getting a lot of power to the ground, but it just loses that slam-you-back feeling in third.
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se7en wrote:lol, at 20psi, my car spins the tires all the way till redline in fourth :)

fifth gear just doesn't have the nuts to do it though :)

it will though when I get the intercooler installed, and the boost turned up :)

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That's what I'm lookin for. :) I wonder how much boost I could get safely running at 10:1 though. I guess I painted myself into a corner because I was contemplating the DE instead (for turbo), but wanted the ZE's hp now. :/
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I guess if you've got the money - go for a turbo...

I've been pretty happy with my klze setup for years since I didn't have much money to play with experimenting with a turbo, nos, etc...

I feel like I have more pull with a bored out TB but there has been speculation whether or not it is actually helping or hindering - all's I know is I can FEEL it more and that's all that matters to me :)
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:oops: I guess I could have read your sig..
Tell me honestly.. Is the LSD worth it? I mean, how much gain is there in the 1/4 mile? Does it make a sgnificant difference in corners?
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BOOST IT!


just be aware of rising gas prices lol
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7psi on a ze or 100 shot of n2o...
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fowljesse wrote::oops: I guess I could have read your sig..
Tell me honestly.. Is the LSD worth it? I mean, how much gain is there in the 1/4 mile? Does it make a sgnificant difference in corners?
Well, I think it makes a big difference, but I've never run a KLZE without an LSD before, so I'm not sure. I can say this:

1st: heavy wheelspin at any RPM above 2000 with 3/4 throttle
2nd: mild wheelspin 4000-5000rpm at WOT. Will spin all the way on a clutch dump
3rd: no wheelspin

Coming out of corners, it connects incredibly well, and seems to spin less than my old K8 with standard transmission did (which was maybe 100hp..lol). It really pulls the front end around in a hurry.

It'll be interesting in the winter.

I'd have to drive a KLZE MX-3 without LSD to compare fairly, but I'm quite happy I went with it.
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Cool. I'll keep looking :) Mine seem to spin, no matter what. I have to be careful with the clutch.
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fowljesse wrote:Cool. I'll keep looking :) Mine seem to spin, no matter what. I have to be careful with the clutch.
Well mine's certainly not hard to drive... so long as I'm careful with the throttle in first, it's just like any other car. Except pulls hard. :)
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i made my own 2.5" exhaust (no welding req.) with a straight pipe replacing the cat - i've been extremely happy with it so far.

my only complaint on my ZE is that the gears are too short (still using the K8 tranny, but with 6 puck clutch and fidanze pressure plate, K8 flywheel) and i've been told to go with a DE tranny. dont get me wrong - the car hauls a-- and the clutch really puts the Hp to the road, but having to shift gears so fast is annoying.
so i guess i'm wondering if your having the same problem, since you say 1-2 go by so fast.

also - where can i get an LSD for my K8 tranny? would it be the same if changed up to the DE tranny?
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