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car wont start

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 1:06 pm
by zuza
i have 1993 mx3, 4 cyl and i have wierd problem
this morning i get into car and try to start it and when i turned my key car wont start ... wont even turn ... nothinh is happening .. just lights like engen check, brake, belts like usual are lighten up
some people were passing by and i asked them to give me a push ... and it started no problem (manual). ... when i trurned off and started again ....wont start .. same thing
could it be starter ? or something else ?
and where is starter located exactly (i know, its dumb question)
thanks

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 1:15 pm
by Bochek
do you hear the starter relay clicking? if not, check for a connection between the relay and the key, if thats ok then its probably the relay (solonoid) wich means its probably time to replace your starter.

Bochek

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 1:25 pm
by zuza
i don't hear any clicking, i checked relay box under the hood and all of them seem ok
how do i check connection between the relay and the key ??

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 2:22 pm
by Tunes67
Its probably the starter solenoid. If you are not hearing any clicking from the starter when you turn your key to the start position. Likely the solenoid has shorted out. Some times you can just replace the solenoid itself other times you have to replace the starter and the solenoid at the same time (depends on the car) if you take your starter out and take to your local parts store, most parts stores can check them for you now and tell you if its the starter or the solenoid that is bad. Hope this helps.

Tunes67

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 2:24 pm
by xtreme velocity
i dont know much bout this..but check the fuse box..might have bad fuse..

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 2:28 pm
by zuza
i just put my car on jacks and went under it and i could not see starter ... where it is located ??
solenoid is the little thing on the starter ???
Tunes ur saying that best thing is to replace the starter, right ?
i just called junk yard .... $ 50 for starter ...
i need more help, and need my car running ...

thanks for posts

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 3:52 pm
by Bumpysbro
its gonna be really hard to see from under the car. find your intake manifold, look directly under that, its black and long hahah. connects right into your tranny.

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 4:01 pm
by ryanlindenberg
i would say get your starter from a parts store. they aren't much more than $50 (rebuilt) and they have a lifetime warranty.

you must not of looked very hard for your starter...it's on the back side of the block.


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if you replace your starter and it still doesn't work, it could also be your ignition switch.

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 4:16 pm
by Tunes67
I am saying take your starter off and have it and the solenoid on it tested... if bad, then yes.. it would be best to replace them. My personal experience with starters has lead me to just get them from Napa.. the Napa's around here just give the right part 99% of the time where as Shucks, Autozone, Pepboys, GI Joes, just simply suck a-- when it comes to getting the right part. A lifetime warranty is nice.. but if its the wrong part or if it falls apart all the time.. is it really worth the $15 bucks you saved if you have to do the job over and over and over again? My time is worth more than that ;) I hope everyone elses is too. ;) Cheers

Tunes67

Posted: July 31st, 2006, 5:02 pm
by ryanlindenberg
i'm just saying that i would go with a rebuilt one rather than a junk yard part...especially when they are similarly priced. i would rather keep putting in free ones covered under warranty than paying $50 everytime it goes bad.

Posted: August 1st, 2006, 11:46 am
by zuza
hey
i just took off my starter, and as shown in owner manual how to test it .... i did everything and nothing happend .. used my booster cable
starter is just dead .... sparks are flying from the conections but starter wont move
so, i guess i need new starter

it was pain in the a** to take it off ... so much screws to take out because the stupid starter .. but thanks guys, thanks for visual explonation (pic)
ill keep u posted
thanks again

Posted: August 1st, 2006, 4:42 pm
by ryanlindenberg
yea the hardest part about changine the starter for me is the bigger power wire...i don't know why but that nut never wants to thread on there right.

Posted: August 3rd, 2006, 12:20 am
by zuza
Ok ... i finally got new starter, put it in .... turn my key ... and CAN'T start
same thing again ....
i drove it to mechanic today and he told me that could be relay .. so my quesion is .. Where is the Starter Relay ???
in owners manual (online) relay page does not work .... please
thanks

Posted: August 3rd, 2006, 12:59 am
by ariesdude
Have you checked all the fuses yet?

Posted: August 3rd, 2006, 9:50 am
by zuza
yes, i checked under the hood some fuses and checked fusebox under the wheil .... is there more fuses ???? where are all the relays ? starter relay ????